Duration of Shared Grp XP Penalties

[Tseng]

Originally Posted by Dantes [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Have all you folks shelving your hybrids actually done any tests and compared those to how exp used to be? Or are we all just blowing smoke here and being over dramatic?

The problem in their eyes isn't their own XP, it's that they feel shunned by others who know they'll be a dent to their own XP. I'm not sure that's been the case in my experience, I just walked my SK into Unrest typed /shout 19 SK LFG and got a group in 10 seconds, so who knows.

[Arclanz]

^ agree. And thank God my main character was not a Ranger. I'd be uber bummed to find this paradise server only to realize no one wants to group with me. Cut the penalties in half or something if you MUST have penalties.

Kudos to those folks who leveled with the penalty (like I did in 1999). But please, think of the Rangers... [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And Tseng, I don't suppose that's you from Brell; is it? Tseng the enchanter.

[Toony]

Originally Posted by purist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Isn't there some sort of compromise that can be reached here?

Eh I hope not. Seeing a lvl 50+ Troll SK back in the day was impressive, you knew they had persevered a lotta BS to get there.

Please don't make this some WoW'like Kumbaya lets all hold hands and give all the retards a trophy so no one feels left out kinda thing.

[Dersk]

Originally Posted by Toony [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Eh I hope not. Seeing a lvl 50+ Troll SK back in the day was impressive, you knew they had persevered a lotta BS to get there.

Please don't make this some WoW'like Kumbaya lets all hold hands and give all the retards a trophy so no one feels left out kinda thing.

Like Velious did?

[feanan]

Originally Posted by Toony [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Eh I hope not. Seeing a lvl 50+ Troll SK back in the day was impressive, you knew they had persevered a lotta BS to get there.

eh, seeing as its the groups the troll SK plays with paying for the exp penalty, not so impressive on an individual scale.

[Toony]

Originally Posted by Dersk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Like Velious did?

Holla when we get to Velious..

[Toony]

Originally Posted by feanan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

eh, seeing as its the groups the troll SK plays with paying for the exp penalty, not so impressive on an individual scale.

Sure it is, they had to deal with all that goes along with.

[Dantes]

Nobody wanted to group with rangers even before the penalty. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[r0gue6]

Originally Posted by Malrubius [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I believe this is still open for discussion. There are two issues here...

1 - The class/race penalties should stay in, and will stay in. That's classic and was by design.

2 - That the class/race penalties affected a GROUP's xp gain was an acknowledged bug back in the Verant days (once they fixed it anyway). There is a thread here somewhere discussing this in more detail. Since it was a BUG, it should get fixed here too.

Can someone (nilbog? aeol?) step in and comment? I'd hate for our beloved ugly Trolls (and others with xp penalties) to start disappearing from our server! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Classic yes....by design hell no.

The Devs stated later that they completely fucked up by having class/race penalties in at all because hybrids weren't really all that much better than any other class. The only reason they had them in the beginning was because they were DnD nerds and DnD had them for hybrid classes.

It's a stupid mechanic, even they admitted it.

It also adds nothing to the server by having them.

[JxP]

I agree with Rogue 100%, it was a bad idea and they later fixed it. I don't see why mistakes have to be replicated.