Top WoW Raiding Guild Quits

[baub]

Originally Posted by citizen1080 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I guess my point was eq was a greater time sink. Yes you could spend 10 hours in aq40, but at what point are you just banging your head against the wall? The content was not designed to take that long. I've spent 15+ hours in VT in one session. No we wernt raping the zone...but the raid was meant to take foooooorrrrrreeeeevvvvveeeeerrrrrr. Ssra was my fav zone of cats on the moon.

We pushed content in tbc, but other then that i was able to look up strats for later content.

Well you would have to be a fool to argue that EQ wasn't a greater time sink [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Kagatob]

And that AHR neck, most mudflation resistant piece of equipment in gaming history.
Replacement in PoP? Nope, not even PoTime.
LoY? Hell nope.
GoD? Not until Uqua for some classes, Qvic for the rest.

[OforOppression]

>tfw ToGC runs in 30 minutes during WotLK

[Kagatob]

Originally Posted by Harrison Remembers [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Boring as fuck, but the loot was just so good. (and some of it full of grief potential, AE food/drink sticks)

I remember getting my Blob2 hat on my wizard and never needing to use a lure spell until FRo.

[HeallunRumblebelly]

Originally Posted by Kagatob [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And that AHR neck, most mudflation resistant piece of equipment in gaming history.
Replacement in PoP? Nope, not even PoTime.
LoY? Hell nope.
GoD? Not until Uqua for some classes, Qvic for the rest.

talisman of vah kerrath. dat effect. Never had a use for it on my CLR, think it was melee shit :P

[Knuckle]

Originally Posted by OforOppression [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

but he lead a TBC era raiding guild and raided on wow for 6 years theres no way he can be wrong

diggles getting extra mad for a fatty, direct that energy into a workout program....


p90x
crossfit
etc.

[Kagatob]

Originally Posted by HeallunRumblebelly [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

talisman of vah kerrath. dat effect. Never had a use for it on my CLR, think it was melee shit :P

What did you wear over it on a cleric then? It was bonkers stats/resists +175 hp/mana/sta and +8 regen/mana regen. The rest of the effects were icing to top it off.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Originally Posted by Kagatob [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

VT wasn't instanced, if you took a break you'd come back and see that someone had done the rest of the work for you. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

contested content. huh. funny stuff. why next thing you are going to start saying there should be persistent game worlds where if you snooze you lose.

Barring some strange system of lockouts, or some even harder to implement guild roster = raid force rule, which I have no concrete ideas how either could be done, p99 is ending up exactly the way this game can only end up. Top heavy, zerged, farmed, spawn camped.

The real-time contested (as opposed to puzzle-mobs instanced time sinks) time sink aspect (eg, poopsocking) that used to limit *many* eq servers (just only so many batphonable players to go around) just can't happen with a 12 year old game, simply because the project cannot expect that vast a player base. There simply is not enough players, and it has little to do with beefs about what the lvl 60's are doing. Not from my perspective anyway. It's an old game. And given a single server project, how to solve the high end problem? Game update 666:

- all end game gear rolls a save vs rust monster once a week. you lose, it poofs, get back to work. Rust monster got hungry, what ya gonna do? stop crying. you knew the risks. or maybe you didn't. But its p666; the devil's server.

- zone lockouts. Very classic! I'm solving problems here, fuck yer classic BS. Could be done similar to earlier eq2. Pick your target, and hold the zone, because if you zone your raid force out, your guild is locked for 48 hours.

- But wait a second! We are zergish, we are like the Mormons of gaming, we all have 37 characters! We have 8 raid forces! No you don't. Accounts with active lvl 60's can easily be linked to a guild, and any 50+ char on such account is part of that guild's nominal raid force. And you only can field one raid force at a time, even if you change members in and out. Wait, dey tuk yer alts?

It's p666. deal.

or, we could just continue as is, and just wait for the usual every-few years usually internal psycho-drama that always ends up breaking up a zerg guild.

Take yers time. But there is nothing that is going to change the approximate # of people that want to play this game "beneath" the top end gang. As to the top end gang, I just do not buy into the notion they would or could ever leave, and even if they did, a fresh crop of die hards will find the opportunity too irresistable.

Truth. I'd hit it.

oh: since raid force leaving zone = lockout, a wipe = a lockout. deal. chew slower.

[Kagatob]

^ every single one of those ideas are terrible. You'd be more successful arguing with the people on this server that they should use instances which in itself is laughable. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Kagatob [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

^ every single one of those ideas are terrible. You'd be more successful arguing with the people on this server that they should use instances which in itself is laughable. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Especially because all the code for instances was forever removed by Rogean.