Answer my complex questions?

[Zaphyer]

1.) If Nilbog or Rogean ever decided to call it quits, would everyone lose everything?

2.) if a mob runs away from you're camp and you have to chase it down and kill it....
Are you losing you're camp?

3). Anyone ever witness a Cloaked Dhampyre being trained to Mistmoore entrance?
or maybe a story of a rare mob being trained to entrance somewhere else in Norrath?

4.) How long can a Cleric solo? Strictly no groups, duos, but just solo. Could they do it to 60 if they wanted, even though it would probably take... years maybe?

[Swish]

1. Can't see it happening but I'm sure they'd pass the project over to a responsible dev.
2. Chances are thats the mob you're camping, so no.
3. On Live back in the day he was part of a HUGE train that swept the zone clean, MM was a scary place to be back then. Not sure it he made it all the way to the entrance, got me at the ramp though.
4. Typing this on my phone so hard to give you a link but check "Kriven's Cleric Solo Guide" in the priests section of the forums. I made it to 53ish before drifting into a group, clerics are undead wizards and immensely powerful as long as there's undead to kill...which there is. Technically you could go to 60 finishing at the top of CoM or The Hole but you'd need balls of steel to do it.

[Estu]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

clerics are undead wizards and immensely powerful

Correction: clerics are a gimped version of undead wizards, and are by no means powerful soloers. Wizards EXP by quad-kiting, which is a somewhat fast method of EXP (though still beat out by bard kiting, enchanter/druid charming, and magician/necromancer pet-utilizing methods), and they have Harvest, which despite its cooldown contributes nontrivially to their average mana regen. Clerics have single-target undead nukes that are about as efficient as Wizard single-target nukes (which one is actually more efficient varies by level). This means they EXP a lot slower than wizards, who already EXP slower than five other classes. They also have lulls and heals, which are nice, but certainly don't make them faster than quad-kiters.

In short, the statement that clerics are "immensely powerful" undead soloers is hyperbole. They can manage, but they're slower than every other caster class, i.e. not very good.

[Swish]

Originally Posted by Estu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In short, the statement that clerics are "immensely powerful" undead soloers is hyperbole. They can manage, but they're slower than every other caster class, i.e. not very good.

Stop and think for a second. The best healing class in the game can potentially solo from 1-60 (and definitely 1-53). Doesn't that say something about the strength/flexibility of a cleric? I'd say that's overpowered, and I love it [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Spectre camp....

My necro fear kites a spec, takes him maybe 90 seconds with dot stacking and moving around.

My cleric roots the spec, nukes 3 times, and sits back down after about 20 seconds and meds for the next one.

Don't forum lawyer me on clerics being bad or slow soloers, they're not...and there's enough undead at all levels that they don't get "stuck" having to group (until 53 at least).

EDIT: I'd be interested to see a shaman's XP root rotting spectres/festering hags/other undead versus a cleric's DD and how that compares over an hour. I think its safe to say we aren't the "worst caster class" for soloing.

[Estu]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Stop and think for a second. The best healing class in the game can potentially solo from 1-60 (and definitely 1-53). Doesn't that say something about the strength/flexibility of a cleric? I'd say that's overpowered, and I love it [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Spectre camp....

My necro fear kites a spec, takes him maybe 90 seconds with dot stacking and moving around.

My cleric roots the spec, nukes 3 times, and sits back down after about 20 seconds and meds for the next one.

Don't forum lawyer me on clerics being bad or slow soloers, they're not...and there's enough undead at all levels that they don't get "stuck" having to group (until 53 at least).

EDIT: I'd be interested to see a shaman's XP root rotting spectres/festering hags/other undead versus a cleric's DD and how that compares over an hour. I think its safe to say we aren't the "worst caster class" for soloing.

I'm not trying to be an asshole here. I'm just saying that it's misleading to call them immensely powerful soloers when they are definitely slower in EXP per hour than every other caster class. If you like going AFK a lot to med, that's another story. Shaman-wise, they have canni/regen, a pet, and dots which are much more efficient than nukes; it's a no-brainer.

[Swish]

Originally Posted by Estu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Shaman-wise, they have canni/regen, a pet, and dots which are much more efficient than nukes; it's a no-brainer.

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Are you for real? My main on live for years was a shaman, you're not going to tell me that you're full mana after every mob kill are you? You're medding, the cleric is medding.

The difference is the cleric finished his spectre while you're still pissing about with yours on 70-80% with those dots and toothless pet dps without it being able to dual wield. The apparent downtime might seem like longer because of inactivity between kills, but I'm already likely about to pull my 2nd spectre while you're chewing your arm, healing/regenning and getting your mana back up to full.

Try thinking beyond the theory of soloing a cleric and give it a go, you'll be surprised.

[Itap]

I was going to answer your questions but I just sat there and watched Swish's gif for about 10 minutes.

[Thulack]

Originally Posted by Itap [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I was going to answer your questions but I just sat there and watched Swish's gif for about 10 minutes.

I want the hour of my life i have wasted watching that gif to see if the stretch armstrong horse ever pulls it out [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Ephirith]

Originally Posted by Itap [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I was going to answer your questions but I just sat there and watched Swish's gif for about 10 minutes.

this applicable to most threads imo

[Swish]

I'm going to compact that guide at some point, its needlessly wordy and written with a silly style with needless anecdotes etc. Will trim it down for a quicker read.