GLOBAL ooc/auction. Poll time.

[L2Phantom]

Originally Posted by uraniumrooster [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Driving players away in the name of being "classic" seems counter-productive.

How does that drive people away? It's the way the game was meant to be played, has been played for 10 years, and the very reason the LFG command was introduced to the game in the first place.

Global OOC caters to trolls, idiots on soapboxes about politics/religion/you name it, and trash talking server celebrities.

That is why it doesn't belong here.

[uraniumrooster]

Originally Posted by L2Phantom [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How does that drive people away?

It's often hard enough to find a group as it is and /lfg is an option that few people use or even know about. Without a global channel, it would get that much harder to find a group and I know a lot of people on p1999, like myself, play pretty much exclusively for the grouping/social aspect. Without an easy way to get in a group I can see a lot of people stopping altogether.

With any small server it's a pretty common administrative tactic to cater to as many people as possible if you want to attract and retain new players. You can just look at the poll results to see that nearly half the population is in favor of keeping a global channel, so removing it alienates a lot of players. However, keeping things as they are would alienate the other half, so in this instance a compromise would be the best solution.

Thus my suggestion to drop auction down to local and restore the classic trade zones while keeping ooc as a social/lfg channel.

[isdnelson]

I see several logical and valid options...

1) Leave it as is.

Why: /shout IS local ooc essentially. Global /occ facilitates communication for a growing population of players that is highly valuable. Imagine looking for a rez or a group without this, especially before you build up your network of friends here.

2) Make new chat channel for /occ which is global, revert /occ back to classic status. Leave /auc global, as trade would be highly crippled without it.

People claiming that removal of global auction would bring back EC Tunnel are dead wrong. It's only people that are preventing EC from being the center of trade it once was. If you don't like it, don't go to Freeport for gear and only sell from EC Tunnel. Get organized and start Bazaar days with events, giveaways, and discounts on items. That's what made EC Tunnel popular before--a sense of community. Otherwise, people will stay close to a bank that's safe and secure and NFP will continue to be a resting place for traders. Pretty simple!

That said, there is plenty of easy access to Freeport for KOS individuals too and no neutral banks outside of Runnyeye so I don't see what the big deal is.

3) Revert everything back to local and allow custom global channels. Needed channels would be...

-LFG
-Trade
-Rez service
-Portal service
-Help/Advice

etc... Probably way too complicated and global /ooc should stay. I don't care if something isn't classic. If its better it should be in game so long as it doesn't bend the spirit of the server too much. Given that /occ has already been in as is for a long time, why bother changing it? Only issue I can see is spam, in that case there are ways to avoid that.

Thanks and keep up the good work everyone!

[Myrkskog]

People are interchanging the word need with convenience too much. You don't need a rez channel, you don't need a port channel, or a lfg channel, or any other channel. They make life easier, but a server would operate fine without one. Being able to auction globally is a convenience, not a need.

Whenever I speak of EC tunnel, I only do so because that's where the bazaar was on my server. I know it was Freeport of even Greater Faydark on others. The fact is that if global channels are removed, somewhere will become the trader center, wherever that may be.

We may not have the population of a live server at its peak, but we definitely have a strong population that is continually growing. I think that this is curbed by the fact that we all know what we're doing now. Population isn't the reason why there is not 15 people leveling on Kerra Isle, it's because Kerra Isle sucks. There are only 3-4 spots people actually go per level range because we know they're the best spots. They were the same 3-4 spots that were used when the server had 150 people, the same spots used now that we have 750 people, and will be the same spots used when we have 1200 people.

[Akame]

I just heard a nasty rumor in ooc that we're about to see global channels go live in the game???

Unfortunately if you make global channels in the game people will use them, which will force me to listen to the ooc chatters in order to filter the lfg calls instead of people using who all lfg.

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[utenan]

Originally Posted by isdnelson [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

etc... Probably way too complicated and global /ooc should stay. I don't care if something isn't classic. If its better it should be in game so long as it doesn't bend the spirit of the server too much. Given that /occ has already been in as is for a long time, why bother changing it? Only issue I can see is spam, in that case there are ways to avoid that.

Thanks and keep up the good work everyone!

What is your idea of the spirit of the server?? Would pok stones bend the spirit of the server? Maps for every zone? Global channels?? They all do the same thing, and imo bend the spirit of the server, from classic to whatever makes it more convenient.

And that is a very poor excuse for not changing something, ( It's funny to say changing something, when it really should not be there, and was actually added post classic, which was a change for the worse imo ) that it has already been here for a while, so why change it? That is like saying "This (insert bug) has been here a long time, why bother changing it?" I don't really understand such logic.

The only problem you see is spam? You must not be looking very hard then. Lets go back to the " bend the spirit of the server " thing. One example would be items. I see items fly by my face 24/7, full sets of mithril, darkforage, pearl kedge totems, and so forth. It has gotten to the point where I am not even excited or happy when loot drops. It's like, "wow, i have seen that being sold 100 times this week in /ooc". That really kills immersion, and bends the spirit of the server in half! This is probably due to the fact that you can SELL things from your CAMP........

[stiv]

I guess I should draw my camp before I make general statements about the nature of this server and the discourse up to this point. I am here, obviously, because I like the classic content and am in full agreement with the devs that EQ was a great game up until Velious. I like EQ because it is difficult and very punishing for mistakes. I like the fact that when i am doing a quest I don't see a damn icon over an npc's head telling me this is who I need to talk to or kill...

That being said, I am neither a staunch classicist, or w/e we want to call members of the community that want the true vanilla experience. I am pretty delighted that i do not have to stair at my spell book for 90% of my time logged, and similar perks that the client inevitably bring to p99. It would seem that my views differ from those of the dev team so in the end my argument does not hold much weight for the the overall effect of the server. My only stance is this: I like you people! I feel an affinity with everyone that joins this server for harboring the same feelings about classic EQ as I do. I feel that global chat allows me to be immersed in this community. Ultimately, what I seek from this server is not an attempt to re-create something Sony made 10 years ago, but to experience something that the devs made 9 months ago and share it with everyone who has come to this place.

[eqdruid76]

Originally Posted by stiv [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I guess I should draw my camp before I make general statements about the nature of this server and the discourse up to this point. I am here, obviously, because I like the classic content and am in full agreement with the devs that EQ was a great game up until Velious. I like EQ because it is difficult and very punishing for mistakes. I like the fact that when i am doing a quest I don't see a damn icon over an npc's head telling me this is who I need to talk to or kill...

That being said, I am neither a staunch classicist, or w/e we want to call members of the community that want the true vanilla experience. I am pretty delighted that i do not have to stair at my spell book for 90% of my time logged, and similar perks that the client inevitably bring to p99. It would seem that my views differ from those of the dev team so in the end my argument does not hold much weight for the the overall effect of the server. My only stance is this: I like you people! I feel an affinity with everyone that joins this server for harboring the same feelings about classic EQ as I do. I feel that global chat allows me to be immersed in this community. Ultimately, what I seek from this server is not an attempt to re-create something Sony made 10 years ago, but to experience something that the devs made 9 months ago and share it with everyone who has come to this place.

Then you're here for the wrong reason, and have completely missed the point of the server. Completely.

[Shawk]

Originally Posted by stiv [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I guess I should draw my camp before I make general statements about the nature of this server and the discourse up to this point. I am here, obviously, because I like the classic content and am in full agreement with the devs that EQ was a great game up until Velious. I like EQ because it is difficult and very punishing for mistakes. I like the fact that when i am doing a quest I don't see a damn icon over an npc's head telling me this is who I need to talk to or kill...

That being said, I am neither a staunch classicist, or w/e we want to call members of the community that want the true vanilla experience. I am pretty delighted that i do not have to stair at my spell book for 90% of my time logged, and similar perks that the client inevitably bring to p99. It would seem that my views differ from those of the dev team so in the end my argument does not hold much weight for the the overall effect of the server. My only stance is this: I like you people! I feel an affinity with everyone that joins this server for harboring the same feelings about classic EQ as I do. I feel that global chat allows me to be immersed in this community. Ultimately, what I seek from this server is not an attempt to re-create something Sony made 10 years ago, but to experience something that the devs made 9 months ago and share it with everyone who has come to this place.

The server was made to be classic, Global chat kills a good half of what classic was.. Community being a huge part of that, instead of communties being more scattered and remote it is all forced into a chat room that half of us are forced to turn off because of how unclassic it is..

I think a good 80% of you people saying no are just lazy and use to things being easy in MMORPGS. This game is so much easier because of Global chat and seeing as how you seem to like the brutal side of EQ it doesn't make much sense that you want global chat.

At the moment this is a classic server with classic content, but the community nothing like 1999, i think the devs know that and will make the change when the time is right. No one is mad or getting angry at your opinion, the people who are here to have a classic server are just getting bashed again by a bunch of people who want this game made easy, its the same people that want there to be more content after velious, this is suppose to be a CLASSIC server, if people don't like that they should just go join a server that already has what you guys desire implemented, there are tons of them..

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[Malrubius]

Originally Posted by Shawk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The server was made to be classic, Global chat kills a good half of what classic was.. Community being a huge part of that, instead of communties being more scattered and remote it is all forced into a chat room that half of us are forced to turn off because of how unclassic it is..

I think a good 80% of you people saying no are just lazy and use to things being easy in MMORPGS. This game is so much easier because of Global chat and seeing as how you seem to like the brutal side of EQ it doesn't make much sense that you want global chat.

At the moment this is a classic server with classic content, but the community nothing like 1999, i think the devs know that and will make the change when the time is right. No one is mad or getting angry at your opinion, the people who are here to have a classic server are just getting bashed again by a bunch of people who want this game made easy, its the same people that want there to be more content after velious, this is suppose to be a CLASSIC server, if people don't like that they best just fuck off cause this was meant to be for us.

This post made me smile. Well said.