End of the rotation?

[kaev]

Originally Posted by Juevento [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The outcome of course being its a few hours closer to being done with work for the week...

/thread

[Swish]

Originally Posted by Kekephee [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's exactly what someone who has an alt in Omni would say!

I must admit I think Omni is harboring a lot of guild tourists.

[skipdog]

It's cute that you guys want to keep clinging to this 'BUT PEOPLE CAN JUST CREATE TONS OF GUILDS AND COLLUDE AND IT'LL CREATE THIS RIDICULOUS LONG ROTATION LIST' scenario.

That scenario wasn't happening. It wasn't going to happen. Again, we are looking at maybe 2-4 kills/month where class R guilds got some help from another R guild at 3am. How does that matter at all?? It's such a minuscule amount of loot.

I think the fact that some of you bigger guilds had to create such a stink over some of the smaller guilds helping each other when stuff spawned at god awful times, is so hilarious and pathetic, considering BDA's history and it's attitude towards the 'evil zerg guilds who ruin the server by caring too much about pixels'.

You big guilds can do what you want, but don't pretend that this 'end of the rotation' was anything except the big class R guilds being upset that they can't get even more pixels than the smaller guilds who can't always field a full crew at 3am.

[Kushie]

Dibs on leadership of BDA 33.


It's just a good number.

[Kekephee]

I just wish there was a BDA 69 so we could have a cutthroat in-guild war over who gets to lead it that winds up destroying us completely

[Amra]

BDA 42 is the answer to everything!!

[zanderklocke]

Regardless of stance and desire to challenge posts in here, I request that no more A-Team continue to argue in this thread, as this is not the place to do so.

Briscoe and I represented A-Team in the discussions, and regardless of who did or did not break the rotation, A-Team chose to leave with other guilds based on frustration with how negotiations were carried out or not carried out and the belief that we were not allowed to provide input that was truly considered in any revisions made.

The A-Team wishes no ill will on any guilds on this server; this includes BDA, Taken, and Divinity. However, we will not support policies we are not allowed to provide input on, and if the only alternative to supporting a policy we do not agree with is leaving said rotation or coalition, we will do so in the future. We will choose to remain amiable with any guilds on this server regardless of the past, and we expect them to do so as well with us.

We will not name call anymore in this thread, and we would hope other guilds choose to act similarly.

-Zanderr

[Paleman]

Originally Posted by Ezalor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A few facts:

There were rotations in classic.

Vast majority of people saw the rotation as an improvement of the previous system.

Vast majority of people don't hold raiding as their only priority in playing here and accept that any raiding system will be inevitably flawed.

Raiding is only one aspect of the game, and most people with "responsibilities" that you speak of accept that this will be a compromise and aren't trying to relive being 13-years-old.

It's a free, private server. Nobody is forcing you to stay here if you hate it this much.

saying vast majority and attributing it to a fact is just asking for trouble.


also rotations on live were built around smaller populations because everquest had way more servers to distribute their population. This is one server where EVERYONE has to be submitted to a rotation.

Its obvious that the majority doesn't raid as hard as the most geared people here. But there has to obviously be a path to being able to do so for everyone. Given what the proposal says it makes it difficult to do with a new guild that has intentions to raid.

we all know this is emu, it doesnt mean we need to like whats established. If anything it should be alot more player driven and managed than live.

[Kekephee]

Originally Posted by zanderklocke [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Regardless of stance and desire to challenge posts in here, I request that no more A-Team continue to argue in this thread, as this is not the place to do so.

Briscoe and I represented A-Team in the discussions, and regardless of who did or did not break the rotation, A-Team chose to leave with other guilds based on frustration with how negotiations were carried out or not carried out and the belief that we were not allowed to provide input that was truly considered in any revisions made.

The A-Team wishes no ill will on any guilds on this server; this includes BDA, Taken, and Divinity. However, we will not support policies we are not allowed to provide input on, and if the only alternative to supporting a policy we do not agree with is leaving said rotation or coalition, we will do so in the future. We will choose to remain amiable with any guilds on this server regardless of the past, and we expect them to do so as well with us.

We will not name call anymore in this thread, and we would hope other guilds choose to act similarly.

-Zanderr

You should make an exception for Argh and let him keep posting anywhere he wants, because he's the only person in this thread who's made any fucking sense

[Blaza]

Originally Posted by skipdog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's cute that you guys want to keep clinging to this 'BUT PEOPLE CAN JUST CREATE TONS OF GUILDS AND COLLUDE AND IT'LL CREATE THIS RIDICULOUS LONG ROTATION LIST' scenario.

That scenario wasn't happening. It wasn't going to happen. Again, we are looking at maybe 2-4 kills/month where class R guilds got some help from another R guild at 3am. How does that matter at all?? It's such a minuscule amount of loot.

I think the fact that some of you bigger guilds had to create such a stink over some of the smaller guilds helping each other when stuff spawned at god awful times, is so hilarious and pathetic, considering BDA's history and it's attitude towards the 'evil zerg guilds who ruin the server by caring too much about pixels'.

You big guilds can do what you want, but don't pretend that this 'end of the rotation' was anything except the big class R guilds being upset that they can't get even more pixels than the smaller guilds who can't always field a full crew at 3am.

1. Its the same guilds always requiring help, yes? What percentage of certain guilds' kills are team efforts?

Its all academic, as Velious will supposedly do away with the class system, causing these same smaller guilds to jump ship to guilds that can handle Velious raid mobs (TMO, IB, Taken, BDA)