Raid Petitions / GM CS - Page 3

Kole1 · #21 02-16-2012, 06:42 PM

TMO/IB/VD and general CS would be improved by periodic full repops.(from the various IB/TMO members who I have spoken to, stealin, xanthias, etc, we all agree, and not just for personal gain)

Would decrease animosity, decrease RnF, decrease the need for GM CS-related intervention. Want this shitstorm to decrease? The powers that be have the power.

It would also be more classic.

It would also mean other guilds that are blocked by the raiding guilds, could raid things. No one would care about stuff that is _very_ fun to raid, but taken for granted because of 5-9 day spawns. Or varying degrees of incorrectly coded epic quest mobs.

IB and TMO and VD have a lot in common. At least most of them. We enjoy raids, competition, and are operating under a system where mobs are a lot more rare than they should be on live. Whether this is an attempt to extend the server's life, or was a response to poopsocking, civil discourse IS possible, were the landscape different.

Also this is not RnF. Slippery.

sawin · #22 02-16-2012, 06:58 PM

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GMs/Guides would have less raid disputes to handle and less whining to deal with if, as non-classic as it is, the raid target zonewide shouted what player or whose pet, eyeball, wtfever got FTE (or go a step further and shout the guild tag of said player).

this sounds like a good idea to me; prove me wrong

YendorLootmonkey · #23 02-16-2012, 07:12 PM

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this sounds like a good idea to me; prove me wrong

I can't think of a guildleader or guide/GM that would be against the raid encounter automatically giving us the one piece of information we need to police ourselves instead of having to bother staff to pull server logs to determine FTE.

Autotune · #24 02-16-2012, 08:01 PM

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[Wed Feb 15 16:25:51 2012] a forsaken revenant begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Feb 15 16:25:51 2012] A forsaken revenant pet hits Eye of Hokushin for 56 points of damage.
[Wed Feb 15 16:25:51 2012] Eye of Hokushin has been slain by a forsaken revenant pet!
[Wed Feb 15 16:25:54 2012] Jjlent looks tougher.
[Wed Feb 15 16:25:54 2012] Transience begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Feb 15 16:25:58 2012] You are thirsty.
[Wed Feb 15 16:25:58 2012] You are hungry.
[Wed Feb 15 16:25:58 2012] You are out of food and drink.
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:00 2012] a forsaken revenant begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:01 2012] Transience begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:02 2012] Zagum begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:02 2012] Eras steps into a mystic portal.
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:03 2012] Necroma regains concentration and continues casting.
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:03 2012] Tetragrammaton looks dead.
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:03 2012] a forsaken revenant begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:03 2012] Players on EverQuest:
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:04 2012] ---------------------------
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:04 2012] [ANONYMOUS] Ingrid  <The Mystical Order>
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:04 2012] [ANONYMOUS] Cyryllis  <The Mystical Order>
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:04 2012] [60 Phantasmist] Zenorek (Gnome) <The Mystical Order> LFG
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:04 2012] [ANONYMOUS] Shamewow  <The Mystical Order> LFG
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:04 2012] [ANONYMOUS] Zagum  <The Mystical Order>
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:04 2012] [54 Elementalist] Pennand (Gnome) <The Mystical Order> LFG
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:04 2012] [ANONYMOUS] Elethia  <The Mystical Order>
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:04 2012] [ANONYMOUS] Raxx  <The Mystical Order>
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:04 2012] [ANONYMOUS] Auelin  <The Mystical Order> LFG
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:04 2012] [ANONYMOUS] Utalnayan  <The Mystical Order>
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:04 2012] [ANONYMOUS] Kelendil  <The Mystical Order> LFG
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:04 2012] [ANONYMOUS] Phisting  <The Mystical Order>
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:04 2012] [60 Grandmaster] Jjlent (Human) <The Mystical Order>
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:04 2012] [ANONYMOUS] Darkdeath  <The Mystical Order>
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:04 2012] [ANONYMOUS] Imgunna  <The Mystical Order>
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:04 2012] [ANONYMOUS] Stealin  <The Mystical Order>
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:04 2012] There are 16 players in The Plane of Hate.
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:04 2012] Phisting tells the group, 'wanna try to bring it down? he bugged out last time'
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:06 2012] Hokushin fades away.
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:06 2012] Brollan's spell fizzles!
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:07 2012] Jjlent says, 'Hail, Cyryllis'
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:07 2012] Brollan begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:10 2012] Jjlent shines with a primal aura.
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:10 2012] Darkdeath tells the group, 'lets try'
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:13 2012] Cyryllis begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:14 2012] a forsaken revenant begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:15 2012] a forsaken revenant begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:15 2012] Transience begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:16 2012] Cyryllis has joined the group.
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:17 2012] Zagum's image shimmers.
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:17 2012] Transience's casting is interrupted!
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:17 2012] Transience begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:18 2012] Zagum begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:18 2012] Tetragrammaton begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:18 2012] Lilyanna begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:19 2012] You tell your party, 'we have half our force at entrance don't we'
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:19 2012] Phisting's body pulses with the spirit of the Shissar.
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:19 2012] Zagum winces.
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:19 2012] a forsaken revenant's casting is interrupted!
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:20 2012] Olympia begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:20 2012] a loathling lich begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:22 2012] Cyryllis begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:22 2012] Freddy fades away.
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:22 2012] Tetragrammaton is resistant to magic.
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:22 2012] Zagum begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:23 2012] Shamewow says, 'LFG'
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:23 2012] a forsaken revenant begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:24 2012] Zagum winces.
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:24 2012] Phisting tells the group, 'of course'
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:25 2012] Transience begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:26 2012] Auelin says, 'Hail'
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:27 2012] Zagum begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:28 2012] Jjlent is resistant to magic.
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:28 2012] You feel protected from magic.
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:28 2012] Imgunna is resistant to magic.
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:28 2012] Phisting is resistant to magic.
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:28 2012] Cyryllis is resistant to magic.
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:28 2012] Innoruuk shouts 'STRONGSAD'
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:29 2012] Zagum winces.
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:30 2012] Transience begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:30 2012] Drippin steps into a mystic portal.
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:32 2012] Zagum begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:33 2012] Cyryllis begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:34 2012] Brollan begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:34 2012] Zagum winces.
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:34 2012] Transience looks very tranquil.
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:35 2012] a forsaken revenant begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:36 2012] Enorm begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:37 2012] Olympia begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:37 2012] a forsaken revenant begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:37 2012] a loathling lich begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:37 2012] Zagum begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:39 2012] Jjlent's body pulses with the spirit of the Shissar.
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:39 2012] Zagum winces.
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:39 2012] Olympia's casting is interrupted!
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:39 2012] a forsaken revenant's casting is interrupted!
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:41 2012] Olympia begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:41 2012] Eras begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:42 2012] Darkdeath begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:42 2012] Auelin tells the guild, 'inny DTd'
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:43 2012] Darkdeath dies.
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:44 2012] You are thirsty.
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:44 2012] You are hungry.
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:44 2012] You are out of food and drink.
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:45 2012] Eras looks very tranquil.
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:46 2012] Xzerion begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:46 2012] Nlaar begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:47 2012] Olympia's casting is interrupted!
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:47 2012] a loathling lich begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:50 2012] Lilyanna begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:50 2012] Nlaar fades a little.
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:51 2012] Shiftin says, 'Hail, Travaris's corpse'
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:52 2012] a loathling lich begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:52 2012] Enorm begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:53 2012] Cyryllis begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:53 2012] a loathling lich begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:54 2012] Jeneker says 'At your service Master.'
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:54 2012] Jeneker begins to radiate with an aura of Elemental Mastery.
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:54 2012] Coldblooded begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:55 2012] Noobs tells the guild, 'who?'
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:55 2012] a forsaken revenant begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:55 2012] Sussy's spell fizzles!
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:55 2012] Coldblooded is enveloped by the Aegis of Ro.
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:55 2012] Eras is enveloped by the Aegis of Ro.
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:55 2012] Nlaar is enveloped by the Aegis of Ro.
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:55 2012] Lilyanna is enveloped by the Aegis of Ro.
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:57 2012] Cyryllis fades a little.
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:57 2012] Innoruuk slashes Eye of Darkdeath for 400 points of damage.
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:57 2012] Eye of Darkdeath has been slain by Innoruuk!
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:58 2012] Sussy begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:58 2012] Shamewow tells the guild, 'any c2 in hate?'
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:58 2012] Eras begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:59 2012] Nlaar fades away.
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:59 2012] Lilyanna begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Feb 15 16:27:00 2012] Jjlent tells the guild, 'people camped at zone in?'
[Wed Feb 15 16:27:03 2012] Raxx tells the guild, '23VD 16IB'
[Wed Feb 15 16:27:03 2012] an abhorrent says 'Hold still, this will only hurt for an eternity'
[Wed Feb 15 16:27:03 2012] a forsaken revenant says 'Hssst.  Foolish mortal!  You can not kill the dead!'
[Wed Feb 15 16:27:03 2012] a forsaken revenant says 'Your foul deeds have earned my contempt.'
[Wed Feb 15 16:27:04 2012] Necroma begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Feb 15 16:27:04 2012] Coldblooded is resistant to magic.
[Wed Feb 15 16:27:04 2012] Lilyanna is resistant to magic.
[Wed Feb 15 16:27:04 2012] Nlaar is resistant to magic.
[Wed Feb 15 16:27:04 2012] Eras is resistant to magic.
[Wed Feb 15 16:27:05 2012] a forsaken revenant begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Feb 15 16:27:05 2012] Silentone tells the guild, 'anyone coming to OT?'
[Wed Feb 15 16:27:05 2012] Brollan begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Feb 15 16:27:07 2012] Darkdeath begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Feb 15 16:27:08 2012] Darkdeath regains concentration and continues casting.
[Wed Feb 15 16:27:08 2012] Darkdeath has been surrounded by the Quivering Veil of Xarn.
[Wed Feb 15 16:27:08 2012] Enorm begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Feb 15 16:27:08 2012] Jabobtik says 'At your service Master.'
[Wed Feb 15 16:27:09 2012] a loathling lich begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Feb 15 16:27:10 2012] Sussy begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Feb 15 16:27:10 2012] a forsaken revenant begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Feb 15 16:27:11 2012] Pennand begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Feb 15 16:27:12 2012] a loathling lich's casting is interrupted!
[Wed Feb 15 16:27:13 2012] Necroma's casting is interrupted!
[Wed Feb 15 16:27:15 2012] Transience begins to cast a spell.
[Wed Feb 15 16:27:15 2012] Innoruuk slashes Olympia for 273 points of damage.
[Wed Feb 15 16:27:16 2012] Pennand fades away.
[Wed Feb 15 16:27:16 2012] Sussy's feet leave the ground.
[Wed Feb 15 16:27:16 2012] Innoruuk slashes Olympia for 100 points of damage.
[Wed Feb 15 16:27:16 2012] Innoruuk slashes Olympia for 178 points of damage.
[Wed Feb 15 16:27:17 2012] Innoruuk shouts 'OLYMPIA'
[Wed Feb 15 16:27:17 2012] Olympia has been slain by Innoruuk!

Some things to note.

1) The time between Inny's DT and when DD's eye was personally killed by Inny himself.

2) Hokushin (who I was told by a VD had FTE) Had an eye die well before Strongsad took the DT. If he had any aggro on Inny, he would have been DT'd. His eye clearly dies to a rev's pet.

3) Inny goes for Oly after he already started down the ramp for the entrance. (mallet dump)

The ones who tried to KS, were you, not us. You can keep thinking those raid leaders are being honest if you want. They are lying. Get pissed at me, send me tells stating so, I don't care and it just makes you sound like sheep.

Everyone who ran logs, who were at the ramp "safe house", will have this on their logs (-guildchat /commands). If they tell you that they don't have it, they are lying, I was at the very back of the safehouse, furthest from inny's spawn and still picked it up. I know a few others who have it as well.

4) don't tell me that we managed to out aggro Inny with a fucking eye. Hilarious as that is, it's beyond stupid.

YendorLootmonkey · #25 02-16-2012, 09:13 PM

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[Wed Feb 15 16:26:03 2012] Players on EverQuest:
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:04 2012] ---------------------------
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:04 2012] [ANONYMOUS] Ingrid  <The Mystical Order>
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:04 2012] [ANONYMOUS] Cyryllis  <The Mystical Order>
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:04 2012] [60 Phantasmist] Zenorek (Gnome) <The Mystical Order> LFG
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:04 2012] [ANONYMOUS] Shamewow  <The Mystical Order> LFG
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:04 2012] [ANONYMOUS] Zagum  <The Mystical Order>
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:04 2012] [54 Elementalist] Pennand (Gnome) <The Mystical Order> LFG
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:04 2012] [ANONYMOUS] Elethia  <The Mystical Order>
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:04 2012] [ANONYMOUS] Raxx  <The Mystical Order>
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:04 2012] [ANONYMOUS] Auelin  <The Mystical Order> LFG
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:04 2012] [ANONYMOUS] Utalnayan  <The Mystical Order>
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:04 2012] [ANONYMOUS] Kelendil  <The Mystical Order> LFG
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:04 2012] [ANONYMOUS] Phisting  <The Mystical Order>
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:04 2012] [60 Grandmaster] Jjlent (Human) <The Mystical Order>
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:04 2012] [ANONYMOUS] Darkdeath  <The Mystical Order>
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:04 2012] [ANONYMOUS] Imgunna  <The Mystical Order>
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:04 2012] [ANONYMOUS] Stealin  <The Mystical Order>
[Wed Feb 15 16:26:04 2012] There are 16 players in The Plane of Hate.

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[Wed Feb 15 16:26:19 2012] You tell your party, 'we have half our force at entrance don't we'

Sounds more like you're trying to slyly tag Inny for FTE since you only have 8 people at him, using the VD/IB force to do your work for you. Or are we saying 8 people can take down Inny on their own and manage the mobs in his room simultaneously? Hard to believe, but okay.

If there were a hypothetical zonewide shout stating that TMO had FTE, like what should be implemented, then we would have camped out and left Inny and the rest of the mobs for your 8 guys on 2nd floor to deal with while the other half of your raid force was scrambling to get to you.

Autotune · #26 02-16-2012, 09:15 PM

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Sounds more like you're trying to slyly tag Inny for FTE since you only have 8 people at him, using the VD/IB force to do your work for you. Or are we saying 8 people can take down Inny on their own and manage the mobs in his room simultaneously? Hard to believe, but okay.

yeah, because we control what you guys do. It's not our fault you decided to engage him before we ported up our people to the entrance.

It's no different than the many times fay was pulled to an empty camp and killed Or talendor being pulled to an empty camp.

Keep trying to excuse your KS attempt.

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If there were a hypothetical zonewide shout stating that TMO had FTE, like what should be implemented, then we would have camped out and left Inny and the rest of the mobs for your 8 guys on 2nd floor to deal with while the other half of your raid force was scrambling to get to you.

Or you could have easily realized that none of you pulled inny, therefore having tanks jump on him was idiotic and was a KS attempt to prevent inny from getting to entrance where we were porting up people.

YendorLootmonkey · #27 02-16-2012, 09:18 PM

I'm just making the case for implementation of a zonewide FTE announcement, instead of people relying on the confusion of "who got FTE? can't risk it being us and not kill the mob... attack! okay, let the GM sort it out!" all the time.

Kole1 · #28 02-16-2012, 09:32 PM

the FTE problem is advantageous to whichever guild rule lawyers it to snake a FTE and let the other guild do their work for them.It will never change as long as spawns are contested. It could have just not been tagged out if there was a question to who was made the train.

You can spin this however you want "u mad", "lose another inny"? "obviously the only conclusion is you tried to KS".....because that helps intelligent discussion of a problem.

Or we could post a "u mad about not getting VS the past 2 weeks"?

The reason no one cares to address this stuff is because you all seem to think people can only interpret things the way you see them. ,You are here posting logs that are meaningless to 99% of the people who read this forum, to prove something to 4 people. stop putting this shit in here, you wasting everyone's time.

p.s. gratz darkdeath and stealin on epic pieces

Autotune · #29 02-16-2012, 09:40 PM

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the FTE problem is advantageous to whichever guild rule lawyers it to snake a FTE and let the other guild do their work for them.It will never change as long as spawns are contested. It could have just not been tagged out if there was a question to who was made the train.

You can spin this however you want "u mad", "lose another inny"? "obviously the only conclusion is you tried to KS".....because that helps intelligent discussion of a problem.

Or we could post a "u mad about not getting VS the past 2 weeks"?

The reason no one cares to address this stuff is because you all seem to think people can only interpret things the way you see them. ,You are here posting logs that are meaningless to 99% of the people who read this forum, to prove something to 4 people. stop putting this shit in here, you wasting everyone's time.

p.s. gratz darkdeath and stealin on epic pieces

I only posted it, because it seemed a few people thought there was a problem. There was no problem with the last inny imo. I posted the logs for them, not to try and snag a response from a dev/gm that will not respond to this reincarnation of a thread that has been posted 10x before.

Kole1 · #30 02-16-2012, 09:53 PM

i meant more like wasting my time because i looked through them. i was mad. I expected guildchat