Why not play a monk?

[Bruman]

Originally Posted by eqravenprince [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Monks have no spells like fear

Pft, we have Intimidation! It's super useful....at making greens run away ;-)

[eqravenprince]

Originally Posted by webrunner5 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

One of the best zones to loot in as a Monk is City of Misty. Try going there as a level 42 Monk with crap gear and no weight reduction bags and do well. You will die in a heartbeat and so will your group. You get a reputation as a crappy puller high end and you are done. No good gear and you are done solo also at high levels.

There are a very few good Monk pullers on this sever because of bad gear and not knowing the mechanics of pulling. Not counting really knowing the zones to pull. Not a easy job trust me.

Well I would hope that in the previous 59 levels that a Monk learned how to pull. What does gear have to do with pulling? I suppose not being able to take a few hits maybe. As far as pulling, Is there a mechanic beyond, hit with ranged, move away from mobs, feign, sneak, pop up when one walks away, hit with ranged and pull mob back to group? I am trying to learn all that I can as a Monk.. so it's a serious question, not trying to be snarky.

[godbox]

Originally Posted by eqravenprince [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well I would hope that in the previous 59 levels that a Monk learned how to pull. What does gear have to do with pulling? I suppose not being able to take a few hits maybe. As far as pulling, Is there a mechanic beyond, hit with ranged, move away from mobs, feign, sneak, pop up when one walks away, hit with ranged and pull mob back to group? I am trying to learn all that I can as a Monk.. so it's a serious question, not trying to be snarky.

answer Yes there is more to it
information on what there is
http://wiki.project1999.org/index.php/Skill_Feign_Death

enjoy or reroll a necro either way

[falkun]

Originally Posted by Bruman [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Grouping can often feel like you working much more than anyone else, and getting shit on for your efforts.

Welcome to a Bard's 12 second life. I can't go afk, ever. Often I'm usually mana song, hasting, slowing, pulling, and CCing. Go make a Monchanter who takes 3sec to do everything and everything he does only lasts for 12sec.

[Bruman]

Originally Posted by falkun [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Welcome to a Bard's 12 second life. I can't go afk, ever. Often I'm usually mana song, hasting, slowing, pulling, and CCing. Go make a Monchanter who takes 3sec to do everything and everything he does only lasts for 12sec.

That's because you're being a good bard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]. I know I wasn't being fair in my post (hence the "whining like a baby" comment). Good bards work hard, good tanks work hard, good [any class] honestly works hard. Being the puller (which, if you're a monk, it's typically going to be you) just makes it very visible. People don't notice if a wizard doesn't nuke for a bit, but man, they notice when the exp stops rolling in.

Most bards are probably like most monks people see though. As in, crappy ones, that play 1 song (maybe 2). But even bad monks have to keep trying to work at least.

[eqravenprince]

Originally Posted by fischsemmel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just curious if there is any reason, other than "because I want to" or "because X is a less common class," to play a pal/sk/rang/rog instead of a monk.

Sounds like monks do nearly the damage of a rogue (while being more versatile in their damage dealing... slow 2h vs 2 1h, decent even without weapons, not needing to be behind the NPC, etc.), while tanking as well as (or better than?) a pal or sk, and with the great utility of mend and better bw and feign and sneak. And then there is fact that the monk class requires less xp than other hybrids.

Seems like the only saving grace for a SK is playing an ogre for the ridiculous stats and stun resist, and that the only reason to play a paladin or ranger is to be unique. I guess rogues have a very slight leg up on monks for damage-dealing and in the exp department... but at what cost?

Since someone said people are giving reasons to play a monk. Here are a few reasons to play those other classes you mentioned.

At times, the weight limitation is frustrating and find myself wishing I could loot a bunch of stuff without the AC penalty. Monks have no spells like snare, healing, ac/hp buffs, fear, lull which are useful in certain situations. Monks have no snap aggro. Monks cannot evade like a Rogue, they do too much damage and mob starts whacking them, they have a couple options take the beating which they can just not as well as a tank, or feign death. And no Feign Death is not the same as Evade, I feign and pop back up and start attacking, the mob almost always turns to face me if someone hasn't passed me on the aggro list. On my Rogue, I evade, and keep attacking. And Monks cannot track or pick locks.

All that being said, the primary reason I play my Monk over the classes above is because he soloes better than the classes above and built in pause button in Feign Death. Shadow Knight is about the only class that would be close.

[falkun]

As a bard, I REALLY appreciate having a monk, ENC, or shaman in the group. Any of those classes usually means that I do not have to run haste or slow or pull. Being everything in a group except for tank or healer, and only being able to do it for 12sec at a time, gets tiresome.

[Splorf22]

Legit reason not to play a monk: cause you can't farm camps for 4k+ plat per hour.

Of course, you can PL for 3k an hour once you get your haste belt and fungi, so :P

[eqravenprince]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Legit reason not to play a monk: cause you can't farm camps for 4k+ plat per hour.

Of course, you can PL for 3k an hour once you get your haste belt and fungi, so :P

You can't? Why not?

[webrunner5]

Because with the Plat, Silver, Copper you will be overweight. AC goes to crap and you can't kill crap.