Occupy Wallstreet is for retards

[Truth]

will you lizard worshippers hurry up and start the revolution already i got wal-marts to loot

[Harrison]

Originally Posted by Abacab PvP Prophet [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Come at me bro.

This occupation will do nothing to improve anyone's standard of living, nor will it do anything to change the system. These occupiers quote Ghandi like he was the result of change in India through peace, giving no credit to the Muslim League that shed the blood for them.

The Bolsheviks, the French underclass, the American patriots, the Zapistas, the People's Movement, the PLO, and now the Greeks, the list goes on at this point. These people did NOT sit in streets waving signs demanding change, they rallied, they picked up guns, they waged war on the state itself.

If you want to topple the ruling elite you cannot do that with your words, words did not work in Libya, they did not work in Egypt, they did not work in China, Russia, even here in our own country; bullets did the work for us.

So like I stated, when you guys get serious about revolt and stop pussy footing around like hippies and arms yourselves as such then I will respect you; but I have no respect for a group of revolutionaries that try to win a class-war with pen and paper.

[Hasbinbad]

Originally Posted by Abacab PvP Prophet [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Zapistas

lol.

You really don't know as much as you think you know bro.

You keep sporting Arab Spring, without the knowledge that the reason it worked is because of non-violent revolutionary action.

The rage you're talking about is there, but it is "bridled" by a certain knowledge that if we start shooting cops with 9mm's the government will have just cause and no compunctions shooting at US with 25mm cannons mounted on Bradleys.

You really should read Gene Sharp - From Dictatorship To Democracy and watch How To Start A Revolution.

[Truth]

No country on Earth has been forged through peace.

[Abacab PvP Prophet]

Originally Posted by Hasbinbad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You keep sporting Arab Spring, without the knowledge that the reason it worked is because of non-violent revolutionary action.

Libya totally was peaceful right? The United Nations didn't just arm people up and bomb the shit out of the coast, there was no summer long insurgency, nor was the leader of that country found dead.

Arab Spring is totally non-violent, so the currency political unrest and roving gangs of extremist murder squads are all a lie.

I also suppose there was no bloodshed in Egypt? Egypt has never had wars with Israel and assassinations of political leaders in the past, and this current revolution was bloodless on the protesters count? So I do suppose the dozens arrested for building bombs and the thousands of images of bloodied people coming from that region are a lie too?

[purest]

Originally Posted by Hasbinbad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

lol.

You really don't know as much as you think you know bro.

You keep sporting Arab Spring, without the knowledge that the reason it worked is because of non-violent revolutionary action.

The rage you're talking about is there, but it is "bridled" by a certain knowledge that if we start shooting cops with 9mm's the government will have just cause and no compunctions shooting at US with 25mm cannons mounted on Bradleys.

You really should read Gene Sharp - From Dictatorship To Democracy and watch How To Start A Revolution.

This is a complete myth. All Arab uprisings have had violence in them, in Egypt, Tunisia, Yemen and certainly Syria. The Syrian opposition now has its own Army. I am not in any way opposed to this, provided that resistance does not resort to foreign intervention or to sectarian killings or to religious zealotry.

[Abacab PvP Prophet]

Originally Posted by Hasbinbad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You really should read Gene Sharp - From Dictatorship To Democracy and watch How To Start A Revolution.

I don't think some bible-thumper from Midwestern Ohio who excessively quotes "Civil Disobedience" is qualified to tell anyone the basics of revolution. This man has probably never shot a gun, never lead a major protest, never left the halls of a University...

and you're telling me this man is more qualified than Chairman Mao when it comes to revolution? That he's more qualified than Lenin? Trotsky? and the dozens of others who put in work with a rifle and a message?

This dude is a studio gangster bro.

Lenin is like Tupac, this dude is like Ice Cube

[Hasbinbad]

Purest - The violence in Arab Spring and nearly every effective revolution was nearly always started by the police. Self-defense is not violence.

Abacab - Whatever Gene Sharp is does not make his words any more or less true. Considering the source is one thing, discounting a message only because of the source is ignorance. What I do know is that there have been many successful revolutions in the recent past from the 1988 student uprising in Burma, to the Otpor! takeout of Milosevic, to the Orange revolution in Ukraine, to Arab Spring, which have been guided by leaders who have had a thorough understanding of the list of 198 specific, effective, non-violent actions Gene Sharp details in From Dictatorship to Democracy. Those people are actually interviewed in How To Start A Revolution, and give at least partial credit to the success of their revolutions to Gene Sharp.

He says that if we give them the option of violence, they will choose violence. And that that is the very arena in which they have the most power over us. They have the big guns. They have the big bombs. They have the surveillance equipment and the files on all of us. What we have is numbers and willpower. If we couple numbers and willpower with a steadfast belief that violence will not solve our problems, then we need alternative actions to force the change that is needed. Gene Sharp gives us those options.

Maybe he hasn't ever held a gun, but people who have held guns give him credit, so maybe trust fund kids who cant think beyond their scene and their nose need to shut the fuck up about topics which are obviously way the fuck over their head (which is buried in the sand).

[Abacab PvP Prophet]

Originally Posted by Hasbinbad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Purest - The violence in Arab Spring and nearly every effective revolution was nearly always started by the police. Self-defense is not violence.

Abacab - Whatever Gene Sharp is does not make his words any more or less true. Considering the source is one thing, discounting a message only because of the source is ignorance. What I do know is that there have been many successful revolutions in the recent past from the 1988 student uprising in Burma, to the Otpor! takeout of Milosevic, to the Orange revolution in Ukraine, to Arab Spring, which have been guided by leaders who have had a thorough understanding of the list of 198 specific, effective, non-violent actions Gene Sharp details in From Dictatorship to Democracy. Those people are actually interviewed in How To Start A Revolution, and give at least partial credit to the success of their revolutions to Gene Sharp.

He says that if we give them the option of violence, they will choose violence. And that that is the very arena in which they have the most power over us. They have the big guns. They have the big bombs. They have the surveillance equipment and the files on all of us. What we have is numbers and willpower. If we couple numbers and willpower with a steadfast belief that violence will not solve our problems, then we need alternative actions to force the change that is needed. Gene Sharp gives us those options.

Maybe he hasn't ever held a gun, but people who have held guns give him credit, so maybe trust fund kids who cant think beyond their scene and their nose need to shut the fuck up about topics which are obviously way the fuck over their head (which is buried in the sand).

You just mad cause I own more guns than you cause I live in Indiana. When push comes to shove I have enough firepower to run an insurgency in my backyard. But besides that point...

My biggest complaint to you and your crew of portblockers is if I walked into that protest with my SAR-1 with the 80 round drum, you jewfags would sell me out to Homeland Security faster than Judas sold out Jesus. You people would viciously try to disarm me before I escalate your poor protest into full on combative warfare followed by martial law.

You people have sold out every moltov thrower, every vandal, every NRA supporter that rolls through your ranks attempting to escalate, and I find that deplorable. You protest the system but result to complaining to the system when the anarchists begin to get out of hand, you arrest us and ban us from your protests because we choose bombs over words, bullets over signs.

and frankly that is bullshit.

I am not one to go shooting places up on par, but if a police man unjustly attacked me or the state moved in on me in an authoritarian anti-civil fashion, I would be the first to brandish an automatic and begin chucking armor-piercers at anyone and everyone in my path.

[Hasbinbad]

Oh Abacab, your talk is so bad ass bro. Why aren't you doing it?

Go brandish your spitter at some cops bro. Put your money where your mouth is.

Oh wait, I forgot:

Your crocodile mouth is writing checks that your candy ass will never cash.