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Old 08-26-2011, 04:02 PM
juicedsixfo juicedsixfo is offline
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PvP servers need less GM interaction, not more. This gives GMs open range to interfere as they will. Sirken, sober up before you post this trash.
I disagree. Don't do things that are detrimental to the server and you won't have anything to worry about.
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Old 08-26-2011, 04:06 PM
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I disagree. Don't do things that are detrimental to the server and you won't have anything to worry about.
The entire basis of EQ PvP is detrimental... you spawn with no gear, after losing whatever camp / mob you were at. With a possible hour long run back to where you cant even get your corpse without help all the while possibly dying again...

What game are you wanting to play?
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Old 08-26-2011, 04:07 PM
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The entire basis of EQ PvP is detrimental... you spawn with no gear, after losing whatever camp / mob you were at. With a possible hour long run back to where you cant even get your corpse without help all the while possibly dying again...

What game are you wanting to play?
You're an idiot.
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Old 08-26-2011, 04:14 PM
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You're an idiot.
Says Juicedsixfo... el oh el.

Just roll on P99 and think of poop socking as pvp. Will work better for you.
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Old 08-26-2011, 04:17 PM
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Yea I feel like GMs should interfere when it comes to giant obvious trains.

I feel like certain small trains happen, its a part if EQ, but again when it is taken to the extreme (1 solo druid zoning into fear to agro every mob he can on another guild) if there is a GM he should put an end to the persons madness.

It is not right to have 1 asshole be able to intentional grief an entire guild out of something. Its not even pvp, its kind of abusing mechanics.

Again this is only when it is extreme. If a group of GuildB try and take fear from GuildA, use trains, use pvp also, and take it from the other team, this sounds fine. But if GuildB failed the attempt, don't fkin keep griefing them by training and such. GuildB lost. Try again after a reasonable amount of time. No stupid Zerg naked training bs.

Some people play to grief, and the extremes should be controlled.
There is a difference between a small grief and extreme grief.

(grief is most often an unhappy and painful emotion caused by something)
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Old 08-26-2011, 04:06 PM
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Sirken was the best gm vztz ever had. Most will agree.

But that doesn't mean he has a clue when it comes to pvp. He even admits it to a certain extent in paragraph 2.

He seems to have done the assignment but didn't learn the lesson.


As Far as PvP deaths: your approach is wrong. You can't keep catering to the guys who aren't pvpr's in the first place. They cry about not being that great at pvp, you dumb it down, they quit anyway. If they were going to stay, they would adapt, improve and come back stronger. If you need to lower the bar for your population, then that's your clue you don't have one.

Loot and Scoot LNS: Sorry Sirken, it's gotta be said. I TOLD YOU SO
I posted this same topic on VZTZ forums about 3 years ago. You could have done it the easy way, but you chose to believe that you knew more than those who had experience. I've said it dozens of times. Staff has no business getting involved in pvp.

Zone Plugging: Some people crash often when they zone. Hopefully, this server is more stable and that won't happen as much. If it does, expect alot of quitting just on this one "fix".

Playnice: Playing nice is for Hello Kitty. You did see that this is supposed to be a pvp server where everyone will be KILLING others right? You sure you are on the right forum? Just the thought of not understanding this shows that despite being the best we had, you have alot to learn about the nature of pvp, it's adherants and their characteristics and behavior. Again, as pertaining to this topic, GMs have no business in pvp in the first place, and always regret getting involved. I knew why, you had to learn why, now spread the wisdom bro.

PvP level range: discouraging pvp, no matter how you do it, on a pvp server is obtuse. Again, you are catering to the players that aren't going to play long anyway. If they were, then they would adapt. Since they don't have it in them to pick themselves up by their own bootstraps, then you doing it for them, won't help. If you don't believe me, try it in real life and get back to me on how it turned out.

Global ooc and YT: Desperately needed to build interest and keep it. Obviously, at some point, if the population rises, you would need to change maybe. Again, the misguided idea, that you are going to somehow "save" everyone is shortsighted and ignorant. You aren't saving anyone, you are just running off people from a pvp server who pvp.

Punishment: exactly.

PS: exactly
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Old 08-26-2011, 04:07 PM
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Staff has no business getting involved in pvp. They will continue to do so until someone like me rubs their nose in it so much that they finally quit like you were forced to do.
This is pretty much what I have been saying for a week+ in more than a couple threads.
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Old 08-26-2011, 04:11 PM
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GMs have no business in pvp in the first place, and always regret getting involved.
Quoting Macken killed a small part of me.
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Old 08-26-2011, 04:08 PM
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I doubt anyone read your finger diarrhea Macken. Just give up already.
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Old 08-26-2011, 04:11 PM
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I doubt anyone read your finger diarrhea Macken. Just give up already.
finger diarrhea is LOL
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