Nilborg, name your price

[heartbrand]

By making the vast majority of worthwhile loot achievable via raids, Velious provides little reason to login outside of raids. Kunark had this issue somewhat, but still had items that were BiS that were only obtainable outside of raids, epic quests to work, etc., and a more vibrant droppable loot economy to farm.

Classic is obviously the gold standard of when the vast majority of loot is obtainable outside of raids and is droppable, therefore creating a playerbase who is constantly logging in to farm and actually play the game. The problem is the content is so sparse it is quickly devoured thus leading to wipe calls 30-60 days after server launches.

[Tassador]

Somebody had the idea of two r99’s. One server is constantly recycling 3 months classic, 3 months kunark and 6 months velious. Then you move those chars to server two which houses legacy chars.

3 months of r99 classic sounds fun not rise of newbs.

[heartbrand]

Classic XP / No plugging / item loot

[Bazia]

this server didnt become completely useless until like 4 years of kunark, I mean something as simple as a 6 month classic / 6 month kunark annual wipe would prob be best

that way if it does die to over dominance it will only be dead for a few months at most

[Bazia]

and hats off to p99 for being the only relevant mmo emu server source code i've ever head of to not be leaked, it's a constant reality for all other mmo emulation servers

although sometimes i wish they were a little less cautious

[Tune]

yea nilbog name yer price to get this implemented

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Cfb...=youtu.be&hd=1

would love to do some cross server ctf games

[heartbrand]

Not sure how Tune destroyed Red99. A FFA, classic [no boxing], low pop pvp server is going to always have one large guild on top. If you look at every period of the box's history, it has been dominated by a single guild, with the exception of a two week period here and there. I could type paragraph after paragraph about why that is, but I'll spare everyone including myself that labor. It's not a Tune problem, it's a classic EQ problem.

[White_knight]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not sure how Tune destroyed Red99. A FFA, classic [no boxing], low pop pvp server is going to always have one large guild on top. If you look at every period of the box's history, it has been dominated by a single guild, with the exception of a two week period here and there. I could type paragraph after paragraph about why that is, but I'll spare everyone including myself that labor. It's not a Tune problem, it's a classic EQ problem.

My statement was false in the sense I didnt specify a specific timeline. However, Tune was definately a factor in the death of this server in the later stages post Empire.

Example: He'd go out of his way to kill mobs like VS and Trak while farming ToV just to stop smaller guilds from getting any content, this while 60 of the remaining 100 players on the server were in his guild.

It's true only 1 guild dominates red99- but that's an easy feat during classic and kunark where you could clear the content in a day, and where it wasn't so drastic of a setback for other guilds/players to catch up in terms of the gear curve.

However, no one can justify during Velious era besides maybe VP Dragon's any reason for a guild farming ToV/Kael to go kill kunark dragons - it was simply a tactic to stunt any other guilds growth - on a 100 pop server remember.

Edit: also at this stage anyone who was/had been in a tov raiding guild had 1-2-3 geared velious toons so people were just farming ToV for alts and Vuulak yet the destructive, obsessive mentality persisted.

Edit2: It's the nature of the player's/leaders that ruin this game, coupled with the lack of content in classic and kunark that cant sustain more than 250-300players.
I guess my point is that one can rule the roost and let other's flourish in the content they don't need, or you can make decisions that make people stop investing their game time.

[Ivah]

Originally Posted by White_knight [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My statement was false in the sense I didnt specify a specific timeline. However, Tune was definately a factor in the death of this server in the later stages post Empire.

Example: He'd go out of his way to kill mobs like VS and Trak while farming ToV just to stop smaller guilds from getting any content, this while 60 of the remaining 100 players on the server were in his guild.

It's true only 1 guild dominates red99- but that's an easy feat during classic and kunark where you could clear the content in a day, and where it wasn't so drastic of a setback for other guilds/players to catch up in terms of the gear curve.

However, no one can justify during Velious era besides maybe VP Dragon's any reason for a guild farming ToV/Kael to go kill kunark dragons - it was simply a tactic to stunt any other guilds growth - on a 100 pop server remember.

Edit: also at this stage anyone who was/had been in a tov raiding guild had 1-2-3 geared velious toons so people were just farming ToV for alts and Vuulak yet the destructive, obsessive mentality persisted.

Edit2: It's the nature of the player's/leaders that ruin this game, coupled with the lack of content in classic and kunark that cant sustain more than 250-300players.
I guess my point is that one can rule the roost and let other's flourish in the content they don't need, or you can make decisions that make people stop investing their game time.

Ya I'm sure there were a couple hundred people waiting to log in if tune stoped killing kunark content every other month lol

[Tassador]

Originally Posted by Ivah [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ya I'm sure there were a couple hundred people waiting to log in if tune stoped killing kunark content every other month lol

Pop is small and dwindling. Nobody cared about Tune winning the server year 6.