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Old 02-04-2016, 05:40 PM
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move on asked USERS to vote for which person for it to support. Move on support is a line of text taht reads: Move on supports Bernie Sanders. That is all. It is not handing out donations.
Wrong again. Moveon has pledged to campaign for Bernie until the Dem convention chooses its candidate. That means Moveon will mobilize all its resources in his support.

"We’ve pledged to run a 100% positive campaign. And then regardless of who wins the nomination, MoveOn will support the eventual Democratic nominee in the general election to keep a Republican out of the White House, because the vast majority of members have made clear that it’s what they want MoveOn to do."
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Old 02-04-2016, 05:44 PM
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Wrong again. Moveon has pledged to campaign for Bernie until the Dem convention chooses its candidate. That means Moveon will mobilize all its resources in his support.

"We’ve pledged to run a 100% positive campaign. And then regardless of who wins the nomination, MoveOn will support the eventual Democratic nominee in the general election to keep a Republican out of the White House, because the vast majority of members have made clear that it’s what they want MoveOn to do."
that is literally exactly what I just said. But did you know that the decision to support sanders came from a vote from its userbase including myself?

NOT becuse of an agenda.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trkejB3XlzI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trkejB3XlzI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trkejB3XlzI
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Old 02-04-2016, 05:54 PM
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that is literally exactly what I just said. But did you know that the decision to support sanders came from a vote from its userbase including myself?
Uh, no. What you "literally exactly... just said" was "Move on supports Bernie Sanders. That is all. It is not handing out donations."

Obviously that is not all, as I have shown.

Care to try again?

Edit: BTW, you can head on over to Moveon's website and donate to Bernie's campaign. Yeah, they are raising money.

"Accelerate Bernie's political revolution by making a contribution now.
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Why "chip in"?

"This is your movement: Help Bernie Sanders and MoveOn build a political revolution

The average contribution from a supporter like you affords the Bernie Sanders campaign nearly two extra hours of work from a field organizer who can mobilize about ten volunteers at a single canvass or phone bank. And now, MoveOn.org has joined the effort. With your help, we will mobilize our people power aggressively and help put Bernie Sanders over the top.

If we all chip in, there's no limit to what we can accomplish together." (link)

IRYD says, "Move on supports Bernie Sanders. That is all. It is not handing out donations."
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Old 02-04-2016, 07:19 PM
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Uh, no. What you "literally exactly... just said" was "Move on supports Bernie Sanders. That is all. It is not handing out donations."

Obviously that is not all, as I have shown.

Care to try again?

Edit: BTW, you can head on over to Moveon's website and donate to Bernie's campaign. Yeah, they are raising money.

"Accelerate Bernie's political revolution by making a contribution now.
CHIP IN
"

Why "chip in"?

"This is your movement: Help Bernie Sanders and MoveOn build a political revolution

The average contribution from a supporter like you affords the Bernie Sanders campaign nearly two extra hours of work from a field organizer who can mobilize about ten volunteers at a single canvass or phone bank. And now, MoveOn.org has joined the effort. With your help, we will mobilize our people power aggressively and help put Bernie Sanders over the top.

If we all chip in, there's no limit to what we can accomplish together." (link)

IRYD says, "Move on supports Bernie Sanders. That is all. It is not handing out donations."
nononon the difference between getting 7million dollars from a buisness who has no political affiliation whatsoever (except for donating 7 millino dollars)

and the difference between a political non profit asking its users to CHOOSE which candidate to support ( Trump was on the ballot mind you, TRUMP was a candidate you were allowed to vote for move on to support )

Those too differecnes are gigantic. One is a non profit, there is nothing but, THAT IT DOESN'T ALREADY DO that it can ask for in return for its - help - on the campaign trail... it cannot ask for reduced fracking regulations, it cannot say that it gave you 7 million dollars so it should be allowed to install sub standard unregulated cable throughout the USA

but a corporation that exists for the soul purpose of making money CAN and DOES receive rewards from the people they contribute to.

DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE YET MR HOMER SIMPSON?
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Old 02-04-2016, 07:28 PM
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nononon the difference between getting 7million dollars from a buisness who has no political affiliation whatsoever (except for donating 7 millino dollars)

and the difference between a political non profit asking its users to CHOOSE which candidate to support ( Trump was on the ballot mind you, TRUMP was a candidate you were allowed to vote for move on to support )

Those too differecnes are gigantic. One is a non profit, there is nothing but, THAT IT DOESN'T ALREADY DO that it can ask for in return for its - help - on the campaign trail... it cannot ask for reduced fracking regulations, it cannot say that it gave you 7 million dollars so it should be allowed to install sub standard unregulated cable throughout the USA

but a corporation that exists for the soul purpose of making money CAN and DOES receive rewards from the people they contribute to.

DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE YET MR HOMER SIMPSON?
Something tells me that you don't understand what it means to fundraise and spend money on behalf of a candidate.

I don't know, maybe it is your insistence that all MoveOn did was ask "its users to CHOOSE which candidate to support" that clouds your thinking?

Maybe it's your ridiculous thought that just because MoveOn is a non-profit, that it can't turn out a good amount of dollars in support of Sanders?

Nah, I think the problem is that you're just wrong and can't admit it. Of course, you're consistently wrong, so it is no surprise.
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Old 02-04-2016, 07:33 PM
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Something tells me that you don't understand what it means to fundraise and spend money on behalf of a candidate.

I don't know, maybe it is your insistence that all MoveOn did was "its users to CHOOSE which candidate to support" that clouds your thinking?

Maybe it's your ridiculous thought that just because MoveOn is a non-profit, that it can't turn out a good amount of dollars in support of Sanders?

Nah, I think the problem is that you're just wrong and can't admit it. Of course, you're consistently wrong, so it is no surprise.
Ok what am I wrong about, are you insinuating what? That move on has given bernie sanders $X (tell me how much) and that means what?

I need to know the answers to those two questions to be able to have a conversation with you about this.

Are you insinuating that becuse moveon usrs voted to supports sanders that some how makes the person who invested $1.5 (a billionare) 10 years ago into move on, a current and active, BILLIONARE backer of Bernie Sanders. Are you just trying to point out that there are in fact, billionaires that like bernie sanders? If so, the answer is: Yes of course there are.
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Old 02-04-2016, 07:39 PM
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Ok what am I wrong about, are you insinuating what? That move on has given bernie sanders $X (tell me how much) and that means what?

I need to know the answers to those two questions to be able to have a conversation with you about this.

Are you insinuating that becuse moveon usrs voted to supports sanders that some how makes the person who invested $1.5 (a billionare) 10 years ago into move on, a current and active, BILLIONARE backer of Bernie Sanders. Are you just trying to point out that there are in fact, billionaires that like bernie sanders? If so, the answer is: Yes of course there are.
I'm not insinuating anything. You keep claiming that all MoveOn has done is "voted to support sanders." I have linked to their website and quoted them as saying that in addition to their "vote" they are campaigning and raising money for Bernie Sanders. Is there something so wrong with your brain that you can't understand your claim "Move on supports Bernie Sanders. That is all. It is not handing out donations" is wrong?

Take a deep breath and write the following out: "MoveOn.org is campaigning for, and raising money for, Bernie Sanders."

You'll feel better. Promise.
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Old 02-04-2016, 07:57 PM
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I'm not insinuating anything. You keep claiming that all MoveOn has done is "voted to support sanders." I have linked to their website and quoted them as saying that in addition to their "vote" they are campaigning and raising money for Bernie Sanders. Is there something so wrong with your brain that you can't understand your claim "Move on supports Bernie Sanders. That is all. It is not handing out donations" is wrong?

Take a deep breath and write the following out: "MoveOn.org is campaigning for, and raising money for, Bernie Sanders."

You'll feel better. Promise.
Ah I see where the problem is. You are arguing with me about something totally different than what I am addressing. You have misunderstood my position.

I am addressing the video in OP and how it claims that bernie is "backed by billionaires" becuse the users of Moveon held a vote for which candidate the website should back & support.

Anything you are adding to this thread and trying to argue with me about is coming from and going in one direction. I am not addressing your concerns or issues, I am addressing the inaccuracy of the claims made in the video linked in OP
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Old 02-04-2016, 07:59 PM
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democrats aren't allowed to have rich supporters

it is known
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Old 02-04-2016, 08:04 PM
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I don't care about the money part, but I'd vote for Hitler before voting for anyone associated with Soros.
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