How important is hide/sneak on a cleric truly?

[DeadlyReza]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Who would you prefer when the shit hits the fan?

Cleric A: Just heals until oom, says "oom" and then sits down and prays the group gets out of trouble.

Cleric B: Already had root loaded, loads up stun... starts rooting adds between heals, stuns adds at full health to be root parked away from the action.


You'll find more Cleric B's will have solo'ed and know a thing or two about surviving the bad times [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] So I'd recommend every cleric tries some solo, whether its early levels, spectres, hags, Kunark undead across many levels/zones there.

Amen, I knew a cleric who didn't even know he had root!

I was like "Hey dude can you cc and I'll heal and he was like "sorry I'm a cleric..."

True story...

So which are you doing OP?

Grouping? Solo'ing? Bit of both?

Getting PLed to 50 and MQing you epic? (Hehe just kidding!)

[captnamazing]

sneak is fucking invaluable.

[kaev]

Originally Posted by captnamazing [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

sneak is fucking invaluable.

Clerics don't get range weapons to do that stupid-assed broken OP sneak pull bs old pal.

Basing cleric race choice on whether or not you have a trick to use vendors that hate you? seriously?

Basing cleric race choice on doing a quest or two without factioning? Make friends with an enchanter and you'll get a TON of other benefits as well.

Versus hide, get 4 or 5 Ring of Shadows, instant cast, non-targetted, cheap to recharge (keep one full charge for recharging), and, unlike hide, invis is not broken by moving, and, unlike innate racial hide, invis doesn't silently fail you 50% of the time.

tl;dr: gameplay reasons for sneak/hide on a cleric are about as far from compelling as you can get.




Oh, what's that you say? Dayum Bubba! If it's for RP or because you think it'd be fun you go right ahead and do it all day every day!

[Swish]

Originally Posted by kaev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Basing cleric race choice on whether or not you have a trick to use vendors that hate you? seriously?

Min/max is the P99 way, remember to take frontal stun immunity if its available because frontal stun immunity etc

[webrunner5]

[QUOTE=kaev;1979548]Basing cleric race choice on whether or not you have a trick to use vendors that hate you? seriously?/QUOTE]

We are all still playing a 16 year old kids game!! seriously?

And you really think people are not smart enough by now to take advantage of every trick in the book??

[Tecmos Deception]

Kaev: skipping stones.

They are even pretty easy to farm at higher levels pulling the while zone and PBAEing. You won't be sneak pulling every pull but you can use it for the tricky splits.

[Cecily]

Not even considering broken sneak pulls, sneak is an extremely powerful ability. Being able to vendor / bank anywhere is huge. Being able to do any quest that will accept indifferent faction is huge. Being able to sneak behind see invis mobs is huge. Hide, too, is something I can't stand not having on my characters. Unlimited invis vs living (most areas) is just great for AFK medding.

But you'd have to be a halfling to do all this. Isn't worth it. Go DE (inny) , Erudite (cazic), or Human (inny).

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Kaev: skipping stones.

They are even pretty easy to farm at higher levels pulling the while zone and PBAEing. You won't be sneak pulling every pull but you can use it for the tricky splits.

Skipping stones don't stack anymore. Do you even play Tecmos??? So much classicquest has occurred in the last year. Sneak pulling isn't going to be that sweet once fixed, especially on a class with a low skill cap and no means of dropping aggro. You can do a few random quests and vendor a few random places. Meh and meh. If you are a person who wants to do random quests and hates not being able to vendor everywhere, roll an enchanter or Druid.

Clerics should be elves (high or dark). Dwarf cleric only if you never exp in the hole and wish to safely run around dubious to the brell diety mobs. Gnome and halfling never, those short races are just horrible.

[kaev]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Skipping stones don't stack anymore. Do you even play Tecmos??? So much classicquest has occurred in the last year. Sneak pulling isn't going to be that sweet once fixed, especially on a class with a low skill cap and no means of dropping aggro. You can do a few random quests and vendor a few random places. Meh and meh. If you are a person who wants to do random quests and hates not being able to vendor everywhere, roll an enchanter or Druid.

Clerics should be elves (high or dark). Dwarf cleric only if you never exp in the hole and wish to safely run around dubious to the brell diety mobs. Gnome and halfling never, those short races are just horrible.

Meh, my point was play what you want because you want to play it. Minmaxing cleric race is just silly, the advantages and disadvantages are so unimportant to your actual success as a cleric in EQ. Clerics are very good at making groups more powerful with buffing, healing, some root CC and/or agro control (love you warriors) when it's needed, and the occasional well placed stun. Clerics are very poor at pretty much everything else. Race choice has almost zero impact on what the class is good at (it's not hard to have a solid mana pool and sufficient hp/ac).

[Cecily]

I don't even think you can call halfling racials min/maxing. It's perks, some very convenient ones, but you ultimately have to play as a halfling to enjoy them so the only ones playing those creatures are genuine fans of the race.