official: EQ live progression will be.... slow progression :(

[Weltmacht]

Ooc regen wasn't in until tss, but such maliciously misinformed beardmongering doesn't seem to be anything new when it comes to opponents of progression servers. Yeah, it won't even be close to the pristine experience for which some would forsake every shred of enjoyment in order to satisfy their sick, twisted ec tunnel fantasies. Pretty sure it has a relatively high probability of being fun though, at least for those of us who are able to take a step back from our "time investment" level sixties long enough to have fun in a video game YEAH

It seems like such a sad irony, especially coming from a classic community. Shouldn't the journey and such be the best part? Or is that only until the loot is two fat to part with? Such sickos.

[Millburn]

Originally Posted by Weltmacht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ooc regen wasn't in until tss, but such maliciously misinformed beardmongering doesn't seem to be anything new when it comes to opponents of progression servers. Yeah, it won't even be close to the pristine experience for which some would forsake every shred of enjoyment in order to satisfy their sick, twisted ec tunnel fantasies. Pretty sure it has a relatively high probability of being fun though, at least for those of us who are able to take a step back from our "time investment" level sixties long enough to have fun in a video game YEAH

It seems like such a sad irony, especially coming from a classic community. Shouldn't the journey and such be the best part? Or is that only until the loot is two fat to part with? Such sickos.

That's exactly why I'm so passionate about it honestly, is because I cherish the journey more than anything else. I'm assuming you're speaking to me because you quoted my part about time investment but feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. What you call forsaking every shred of enjoyment I call satisfaction bred by hardship. A game like EQ isn't something I play explicitly for fun, I play it to get lost and to be satisfied which doesn't happen when you have shortcuts like newbie armor, defiant gear, ooc regen, corpse summoning, and SK armies due to uncapped HT which isn't content appropriate. Or with harsh art style changes from switching between North Ro and Freeport and being bombarded with a forced oasis of post luclin graphics in a desert of classic era nostalgia. Excuse me for wanting, (read: not expecting or demanding) some level of earnestness from these people.

[Weltmacht]

Believe me, I hear you. The unfortunate fact for us, though, is that these progression servers are the best we'll ever get. Sad, true, and, yes, possibly enjoyable in spite of that. And so it's rather disheartening to hear such quibbles when a game can remain fun for a solid few years despite the particular circumstances/ruleset being less than ideal.

What I'm saying doesn't really amount to more than: whatever team remains at whatever soe is called these days simply will not have the time or resources to do anything close to what could be considered classic; it's simply not feasible and not going to happen. That is not swell; not at all. But.... There is still much fun to be had regardless of its assured imperfections, you know?

[Millburn]

Originally Posted by Weltmacht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Believe me, I hear you. The unfortunate fact for us, though, is that these progression servers are the best we'll ever get. Sad, true, and, yes, possibly enjoyable in spite of that. And so it's rather disheartening to hear such quibbles when a game can remain fun for a solid few years despite the particular circumstances/ruleset being less than ideal.

What I'm saying doesn't really amount to more than: whatever team remains at whatever soe is called these days simply will not have the time or resources to do anything close to what could be considered classic; it's simply not feasible and not going to happen. That is not swell; not at all. But.... There is still much fun to be had regardless of its assured imperfections, you know?

Without a doubt but if I do play on this one this will be the third one I've done this time round and I'm just not sure if I really want to do it again without seeing any actual progress. At this point I'm just looking for them to build upon the mistakes made in previous servers but there's just no hint they're even cognizant of it which is what's disheartening to me. Sure, I understand it's a skeleton crew trying to do something nice for the players and I'm not taking that for granted but... it's not like this is the first time they're doing this. It still remains to be seen what improvements have been made for this server so I'm waiting with bated breath.

[Rec]

Everyone saying the server will have no gm support, it should be the most fun server in the history of EQ. Training and no pvp to self police

[Millburn]

Originally Posted by Rec [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Everyone saying the server will have no gm support, it should be the most fun server in the history of EQ. Training and no pvp to self police

Fippy and Vulak didn't really have any GM support either. If anything it's gonna be crazier this time round.

[Enderenter]

Originally Posted by Weltmacht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Believe me, I hear you. The unfortunate fact for us, though, is that these progression servers are the best we'll ever get.

p99>>>>>

[radditsu]

I hope defiant is in.

[Weekapaug]

Originally Posted by Enderenter [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If this is true (and I'm not saying it isn't), why do people play on these servers? Why would anyone want to play a server that has all modern EQ content, where basically all that is added is the areas from each expansion as they are released. Wouldn't just playing on a normal server with all expansions be better, in that case?

People get the same nostalgia that we do here, except for many (myself included for a long time) think using an EMU is just wrong to do. I only started playing here because this is a restoration project not a "hack."

But many don't see the difference. And that's their only legit outlet.

Would be my guess, at least.

[Weekapaug]

Originally Posted by Weltmacht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ooc regen wasn't in until tss, but such maliciously misinformed beardmongering doesn't seem to be anything new when it comes to opponents of progression servers. Yeah, it won't even be close to the pristine experience for which some would forsake every shred of enjoyment in order to satisfy their sick, twisted ec tunnel fantasies. Pretty sure it has a relatively high probability of being fun though, at least for those of us who are able to take a step back from our "time investment" level sixties long enough to have fun in a video game YEAH

It seems like such a sad irony, especially coming from a classic community. Shouldn't the journey and such be the best part? Or is that only until the loot is two fat to part with? Such sickos.

As I said, mr "sad irony," that was what I recall but did not know.

Freeport Sewers and revamp Lavastorm loot ABSOLUTELY dropped the first time around and, I GUARANTEE, there are examples of the same from the last time around, but I didn't fall for that joke a second time so I can't tell you what they were. But I guarantee they were there.

They also use all revamp zones as I recall. New outdoor Antonica, etc. Nothing classic about any of it. It's just simple content locks. I'm not saying that, in and of itself, is un-fun. I enjoyed for the most part the first progression servers. But it's not generally what people looking for true restorations are looking for and it's a legit criticism.

And they deserve all the criticism they get. There has been a voracious appetite for classic eq and progression since long before and they've had to be dragged to it kicking and screaming the whole time. All they want from EQ now is to milk cash out of it and they only do the minimum for the progression servers to do that.