Plane of Fear

[Aeolwind]

Originally Posted by Halladar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I could be wrong. But disprove me.

I wasn't in the beta so I can neither prove nor disprove if they were in the live beta. All I can say is this, it was almost 6 months for the first SK to hit 50 on emarr.

[Halladar]

We probably have someone here who played in beta. Beta is kind of artificial, but did they have hell levels then?

My personal thinking is that Verant was totally freaked out by how many players they had, how fast they were leveling, and how little content they had for them when they got past about level 30 or so.

So they put in hell levels to slow everyone up.

Kind of like "they built all these crackerbox houses, and Jesus people bought 'em."

Then someone like Abashi can come along and say it is all "working as intended." When the reality is they never really knew what was intended.

[Aeolwind]

Originally Posted by Halladar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We probably have someone here who played in beta. Beta is kind of artificial, but did they have hell levels then?

My personal thinking is that Verant was totally freaked out by how many players they had, how fast they were leveling, and how little content they had for them when they got past about level 30 or so.

So they put in hell levels to slow everyone up.

Kind of like "they built all these crackerbox houses, and Jesus people bought 'em."

Then someone like Abashi can come along and say it is all "working as intended." When the reality is they never really knew what was intended.

Yeah, there were very few 50's in the beta though. Hell levels were literally a coding flaw though. There was something like a "if @level / 5 then @xp x2" Ugly, but it shows why I should never touch the source....

[Elerion]

I seem to remember hell levels were simply a byproduct of the xp scaling curve they used and not an intended effect. Some dev letter from around the time they smoothed the curve out might have the details.

[yaaaflow]

My understanding of hell levels (and this is just I believe what was posted when they were taken out) is as follows: The developers intended to have the amount of xp to level increase at 30->35 by X amount, spread out among the levels. Then from 35-40 it would increase by Y amount, spread out among the levels. And so on, for 40-45 and 45-50. Except a bug in the code had that full xp amount applied to just the 1st level in each of the ranges, so level 30 would take the regular xp amount + X, and the rest of the levels would proceed normally. And so forth.

At the very least that is approximately what Verant posted about it when they ended up removing hell levels.

My question along these lines is why is it on this server that hell levels are 29/34/etc rather than 30/35/etc?

[Icecometus]

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[Widan]

Originally Posted by yaaaflow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My question along these lines is why is it on this server that hell levels are 29/34/etc rather than 30/35/etc?

I thought hell levels were 34,39 etc on classic too? Maybe the code added it to the last level in the range (34 in 30-34, 39 in 35-39 etc) instead of the first level.

[Deanob]

Good read Bubbles, TY

[Ocaevia]

Great read indeed.