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Old 01-12-2014, 12:46 PM
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People can be bad, sure, but that doesn't mean that people who aren't are extremely skilled.

Not impressed by charmed sirran + horses enrage tanking SL down, sry.
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Old 01-12-2014, 12:49 PM
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Most "modern EQ" skill boils down to how well you can box 3 accounts sadly. Mostly agree otherwise.
Do you play Live EQ? I doubt it by your response. Modern EQ is 50x more skill needed to get max DPS, accomplish things on a raid then anything here. Being able to box is nice on live when leveling but when it comes to accomplishing things boxing is more a hindrance.
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Old 01-12-2014, 03:06 PM
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Well for starters, its clear that you don't know what the word tautology means.

Anyway I think you are blowing my post way out of proportion - certainly there are other facets of EQ skill, and social skills are definitely one. The point I was trying to make is that FE in general and Unbrella/Sloan in particular have been trying to claim that their willingness to get up at 3AM to faceroll their keyboards to kill boss mobs in a giant zerg makes them some sort of gods of classic everquest. And reality is, the current raid scene is 95% effort and 5% skill.

P.S. Does having a thread about me in server chat mean I win forumquest?
You have no idea the kind of strategy it takes to get VP kills while a larger, more experienced guild is allowed to train you and KS you. I didn't know what it entailed until I saw it, and Sloan wasn't exaggerating at all when he described it in raid discussion forum.

Everything from hiding groups of players in different parts of the zone, moving around without being seen by the other guild, how to train another FD class or an entire guild properly and keep yourself alive, training mobs with a very low agro range and very high melee damage away from your raid and not leaving any stragglers, counter training when someone's trying to train your group. Knowing when it's safe to even have your raid enter the zone or engage a dragon. One unchecked tmo monk/necro/sk can potentially end your entire night there, and turn it into many hours of CR. There was even PVP when our monks started going red so that the other trainers couldn't bracer them and soulfire/rune themselves to steal the train. Their necros started going red to just kill our our monks, and that added a whole new dynamic that I won't even get into here. You need to use your resources wisely, you can't just batphone when a dragon is up. You need to know that you can get a killforce online and hopefully mobilize to VP before the other guild realizes you are. Or else they log the trainers on before you even get there.

I could go on for a half hour probably. Bottom line is, you sell our raid leaders very short in this respect. If you told me you one grouped bee queen, I'd be less impressed than I was after our first Phara'dar kill. There's a reason many people were actually sad when VP went completely csr.
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Old 01-12-2014, 03:19 PM
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Exactly why VP should have never been allowed to be like that.

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Old 01-12-2014, 03:27 PM
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There's a reason many people were actually sad when VP went completely csr.
People who are punished for their bad behaviour usually are sad.
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Old 01-12-2014, 03:31 PM
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People who are punished for their bad behaviour usually are sad.
It was absolutely encouraged by staff. Idk how you can call it bad behavior. It was just a very different zone with very different rules that made it unique.
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Old 01-12-2014, 05:44 PM
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vp used to be the most interesting and challenging zone on the server.
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Old 01-12-2014, 07:56 PM
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All of these are various skillful aspects of Everquest. Claiming that one in particular is the most important is a tautology.
Great example of how to invalidate an entire post.
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