What is "Poofing" to Sirken?

[Barkingturtle]

So, I guess I'd say poofing is a little bit of number two.

[finalgrunt]

Originally Posted by thrump [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Right, of course I'm talking about a successful FD, not about /q the second I hit the ground. I can normally hide and camp out agro and I prefer that. On the occasion that I have agro on a roamer that sees hide (not gonna reset and can't just camp), FD and /q it is. Just like monks do all the time.

I'm not really at risk while FD in the scenario I am describing. I am not talking about getting out of game while being cast upon or anything, have never used it like that. I'm not in an urgent rush to get back in game any more than someone without an exemption. The fact that I FD and then /q doesn't make it shady. FD players do it all the time -- I just want to be clear on how long those of us who have exemptions for other purposes need to wait before reentering like normal.

I'm not asking if what I'm doing is legit -- I'm not using it to escape a damn thing -- I'm asking how long I have to stay out for it to not be viewed as described above. I'd only be LD for a very short while if I didn't just wait at server select awhile, thus it would potentially be seen as a poof. I don't know.

I'm pretty sure a normal login cycle is good enough. With /q you still need to re authenticate, select your toon, and get into the game (takes 30 seconds to a minute maybe?). You don't have to wait for anything.

[ymw]

I doubt Sirken is going to be hunting down monks that are clearing aggro.

It doesn't need to be some overly complicated 10-page essay explaining exactly what is and isn't okay. Some common sense can/should apply here.

If you go LD and you go through your normal login process, but an IP exemption gets you in a few seconds sooner, you're probably okay. If you are being trained in VP and use a second computer parked at the login screen to instantly boot yourself in the face of certain death, you're cheating.

[quido]

The issue isn't so much that you're getting in a few seconds sooner but rather that you can get out a few seconds sooner.

If I flop and /q and login a few seconds later and my char gets dropped from flopped LD 10 seconds sooner then he would otherwise and those 10 seconds save my feign and thus me, we're really talking about the same thing. Same thing with getting out 10 seconds early on a cleric who DAs.

I think if there's any hope of enforcing this rule, they need to set it up so that exemptions only allow you to connect to the server on a different account as opposed to the same one after LDing or whatever. This will allow people to keep their exemptions, still allows the harmless perk of the fast switch, and will prevent players from booting their threatened characters too quickly.

[finalgrunt]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The issue isn't so much that you're getting in a few seconds sooner but rather that you can get out a few seconds sooner.

If I flop and /q and login a few seconds later and my char gets dropped from flopped LD 10 seconds sooner then he would otherwise and those 10 seconds save my feign and thus me, we're really talking about the same thing. Same thing with getting out 10 seconds early on a cleric who DAs.

I think if there's any hope of enforcing this rule, they need to set it up so that exemptions only allow you to connect to the server on a different account as opposed to the same one after LDing or whatever. This will allow people to keep their exemptions, still allows the harmless perk of the fast switch, and will prevent players from booting their threatened characters too quickly.

Why would anyone /q while having aggro? If it's so as to be saved by relogging fast, this is an exploit. Sorry, but I don't see your point.

Or maybe I don't understand what you mean by "those 10 seconds save my feign". Like FDing between AE casts from a dragon? That's not possible unless you had another client ready to log in. Which means you're using the fast login mechanism and IP exemption to drop earlier from game. In that case, you obviously know you're abusing it.

Simply put, there is no reason to /q with aggro, if you plan to relog soon after

[Droog007]

Originally Posted by Barkingturtle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So, I guess I'd say poofing is a little bit of number two.

Lawled @ work ... you goofy bastard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Byrjun]

Originally Posted by finalgrunt [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Simply put, there is no reason to /q with aggro

I hope you don't mean like, FD while still having pather aggro, cause people /q in that situation all the time to clear their aggro.

[finalgrunt]

Originally Posted by Byrjun [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I hope you don't mean like, FD while still having pather aggro, cause people /q in that situation all the time to clear their aggro.

Indeed, pathing aggro isn't what I meant. Aggro as in being actively attacked / pursued / spell cast upon.

[quido]

What I mean is someone could break that feign with an AE in those ten seconds and get you screwed, but not if you drop prematurely.

[Susano]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

still allows the harmless perk of the fast switch

I wouldn't call this harmless considering the huge advantage it gives to people with IP exemptions on highly contested targets. Being someone without an exemption, I know I envy those with valid or falsified reasons to have one.