Soulfire - Page 25

falkun · #**241** 07-22-2013, 08:36 AM

The server can have Classic mechanics, or a Classic environment, but with the extended release schedule P99 cannot be both. The server is trying unsuccessfully to ride the fence between the two.

I also did not say TMO did not kill Trak for fun, and you can have fun denying content to other guilds, as Cecily already alludes to:

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It's kinda the same thing I think. Loot denial to the competition. You guys just have something else fun to do with the stuff you get. A 20 Trakanon kill streak has the same psychological impact as getting your corpse camped I'd imagine. It's just a slower way to be mean.

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Yes.

Are you arguing "fun" and "VP key denial" are mutually exclusive?

Alarti0001 · #**242** 07-22-2013, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by falkun [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The server can have Classic mechanics, or a Classic environment, but with the extended release schedule P99 cannot be both. The server is trying unsuccessfully to ride the fence between the two.

I also did not say TMO did not kill Trak for fun, and you can have fun denying content to other guilds, as Cecily already alludes to:

Are you arguing "fun" and "VP key denial" are mutually exclusive?

"cherry picking"

Deanob · #**243** 07-22-2013, 09:06 AM

Soulfire = classic

dont like it? there's the door.

Alarti0001 · #**244** 07-22-2013, 09:16 AM

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Soulfire = classic

dont like it? there's the door.

appeal to tradition.

falkun · #**245** 07-22-2013, 10:42 AM

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"cherry picking"

So instead of answering a simple question, you attempt to skirt the issue.
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SCB · #**246** 07-22-2013, 10:44 AM

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appeal to tradition.

If you're going to cite logical fallacies, make sure you understand them: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_tradition

The server's stated intent ("Classic Everquest" - read as "as Classic as possible given client limitations and other factors") is why people are arguing for Classic mechanics, not out of love for Classic mechanics over love of the server (I'd gladly take no EXP penalty for hybrids, advanced tracking windows, and compass, thanks very much).

By definition, this is not a logical fallacy, and it is laughable that you would pretend this is an appeal to tradition fallacy.

Idiots who try to pretend they understand rhetoric are the worst kind of idiots.

Bantam 1 · #**247** 07-22-2013, 10:54 AM

I think anyone who has any experience in classic EQ knows this:

For the sake of this thread/arguement: The Donals BP is the same as a Soulfire for trivializing content. Anyone arguing that its not is failing to realize with a little research that TMO likely has a lot of Donals BPs and 60 clerics...

So arguing that Soulfires trivialize content and Donals BP doesn't is basically saying that you don't want to change the status quo.

Soulfires = upstart guild tool. Absolutely 100% classic.

falkun · #**248** 07-22-2013, 10:57 AM

But Bantam, TMO wants competition! Why would they want to (unclassically) get rid of tools for upstart guilds?

FYI: Alarti, this question is rhetorical.

Tecmos Deception · #**249** 07-22-2013, 10:59 AM

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I think anyone who has any experience in classic EQ knows this:

For the sake of this thread/arguement: The Donals BP is the same as a Soulfire for trivializing content. Anyone arguing that its not is failing to realize with a little research that TMO likely has a lot of Donals BPs and 60 clerics...

So arguing that Soulfires trivialize content and Donals BP doesn't is basically saying that you don't want to change the status quo.

Soulfires = upstart guild tool. Absolutely 100% classic.

Who wants to place bets on whether TMO clerics even use their donals in raids for anything except healing someone who stones/cannis down during buffing?

SCB · #**250** 07-22-2013, 11:13 AM

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Who wants to place bets on whether TMO clerics even use their donals in raids for anything except healing someone who stones/cannis down during buffing?

You don't need to do a CH rotation is the mob is 32k and dies in seconds. I'd wager they only care about Donals because they sell so nicely.