Miscellaneous: Nerf Bowquest 99

[Awsten_Tx]

Originally Posted by Thrilla [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Bumping this post. Has there been any response from P99 admins and leadership on this? I thought this was supposed to be as close to a classic experience as possible, but it has made all PvP engagements a ranged attack spam fest and it also actively deluding mob difficulty by certain guilds that use this broken mechanic along with rooted dragons to cheese down mobs.

Nobody ran around on Rallos Zek live with bows chunking people down. It isn't classic.

Can dev at least define a LOE to get this fixed? I'm sure more than a handful of people would be willing to hit that donate button if it meant this got attention in a decent amount of time. This post is over 2 years old. In before the red is dead comments, I still like to login occasionally and I don't like feeling like Ace Ventura, ya dig

https://tenor.com/view/ace-ventura-a...e-gif-18966955

I have been standing on my head trying to get this fixed, not necessarily from a PVP standpoint (though that matters too) but from a ranger perspective.

Classic Rangers performed far better in archery than on P99 due to this bug. It needs to be fixed.

[ReadOnly]

Bowquest is not good. Hopefully staff has something in the works.

[Ezpk]

I agree bowquest is busted to a certain extent and should be addressed, however - until people put in the leg work and figure out the actual formula and run tests with logs similar to how Lovely would provide extensive feedback at launch, there won't be any updates outside of dev input. I remember getting smacked around here n there all the time to test #s. If we want to fix bowquest, we'll have to figure out a fix for the coding and why it is the way it is.

Quoting most previous post relating to the actual code below -

Originally Posted by Botten [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Changing a persons quote is really frowned on by these forums. Especially rewriting it.

I don't get it Imago. You are playing on an emulator of a game hosted for free.

Demanding an immediate fix that only affects a small population of players and characters who have this limited race/class who exploit this in PvP.

Have some humbleness they acknowledge it and are trying to fix it but it doesn't warrant a hot fix and drop all resources to fix NOW.

Hell want fix the code yourself and part of the solution:

https://github.com/EQEmu/Server/blob...one/attack.cpp

if (hit.skill == EQ::skills::SkillArchery ||
		(hit.skill == EQ::skills::SkillThrowing && GetClass() != BERSERKER))
		hit.damage_done /= 2;

	if (hit.damage_done < 1)
		hit.damage_done = 1;

	if (hit.skill == EQ::skills::SkillArchery) {
		int bonus = aabonuses.ArcheryDamageModifier + itembonuses.ArcheryDamageModifier + spellbonuses.ArcheryDamageModifier;
		hit.damage_done += hit.damage_done * bonus / 100;
		int headshot = TryHeadShot(defender, hit.skill);
		if (headshot > 0) {
			hit.damage_done = headshot;
		}
		else if (GetClass() == RANGER && GetLevel() > 50) { // no double dmg on headshot
			if ((defender->IsNPC() && !defender->IsMoving() && !defender->IsRooted()) || !RuleB(Combat, ArcheryBonusRequiresStationary)) {
				hit.damage_done *= 2;
				MessageString(Chat::MeleeCrit, BOW_DOUBLE_DAMAGE);
			}
		}
	}

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This is where we need to pickup from if we want real results going forward.

[Infectious]

Originally Posted by Ezpk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I agree bowquest is busted to a certain extent and should be addressed, however - until people put in the leg work and figure out the actual formula and run tests with logs similar to how Lovely would provide extensive feedback at launch, there won't be any updates outside of dev input. I remember getting smacked around here n there all the time to test #s. If we want to fix bowquest, we'll have to figure out a fix for the coding and why it is the way it is.

Quoting most previous post relating to the actual code below -


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This is where we need to pickup from if we want real results going forward.

It's been proven to be classic in pve and pvp. Red players are always late to the party of course

[Awsten_Tx]

Originally Posted by Infectious [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's been proven to be classic in pve and pvp. Red players are always late to the party of course

Lolwut!?!?!

P99 archery mechanics arent even close to classic...

Please post evidence.

[Thrilla]

Proven to be classic by who? I don’t remember getting bowed once from classic through velious in PvP outside of rangers on live. Granted, people have had 24 years to find quirks in the game but when warriors refuse to get into range of casters and kite them out in a open area, giving the caster no ability to get close without eventually taking enough damage to die, its broken, classic or not. This thread has been out here forever, so doubt it gets fixed. It also affects pve.

[Thrilla]

PvP now, pals

exhibit A:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exIT...ature=youtu.be

exhibit B:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyDP3liDF8A

[magnetaress]

Glad this thred is still going lol.

Try project quarm, you may have better luck over there !

Originally Posted by Thrilla [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

PvP now, pals

exhibit A:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exIT...ature=youtu.be

exhibit B:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyDP3liDF8A

The necros where winning? It's hard to tell.

1v1 pvp was always very LULOLZ in EQ

[Thrilla]

Originally Posted by magnetaress [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Glad this thred is still going lol.

Try project quarm, you may have better luck over there !



The necros where winning? It's hard to tell.

1v1 pvp was always very LULOLZ in EQ

Wasn’t intended to define a winner

Didn’t fight the first time cause i knew how it was going to go based on reaction from jump. 2nd time was for the laughs on the current state of r99 PvP. Something about watching a fatty OOR bow quest hotkey vs a clothie is great.. Fun times. Excited for next patch (insert sarcasm here)

[Platexchange]

lol's 3 years later, still bowquesting because the 5 minutes to fix it seems like too much time to invest in R99.