Enchanter charm isn't classic, we all know this

[Swish]

Originally Posted by sentinel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

People here are acting like 56k was this nigh unstable internet barely able to send emails let alone play Everquest, but it wasn't that bad (at least 200k EQ players didn't seem to think so).

In parts of the world people's ping to the server is nearly 300. So bard kiting is out, but everything else (surprise surprise) feels fine.

[Mushman]

Accurate code or not, the power of charming as it now when played competently destroys the classic EQ ecosystem.

We have solo/duo charm content buzzsaws taking up large amounts of the limited real estate. Anyone LFG is a negative expected value invitation because they are only limited by travel distance, not clear speed of every PH or named mob in their vicinity. Adding anyone else is losing pixels and XP bar progression.

[Bazia]

they ruining all the good zones tbqh 5 enchanters soloing camps in every zone other than like uguk

[TripleBoc]

I've read many a post here... but my experience on ECI back in 2000 was that there were hardly any enchanters that played. They were a rare class because they were considered support and not powerful enough to solo. I started one because I liked to group, and never once did anyone ask me to charm... they just wanted CC and haste/clarity.

When I came to blue in 2015, I was shocked at how many chanters were always on, then I read about how most were soloers due to charm. I'm not saying the mechanics were different back on live, but the perception was for sure.

[Ligma]

Anywho, nah, charming wasn't that bad. Even if the dreaded disconnect happened, the pet just needed to be rooted or mezzed or tanked or whatever. People here are acting like 56k was this nigh unstable internet barely able to send emails let alone play Everquest, but it wasn't that bad (at least 200k EQ players didn't seem to think so).

Going LD everytime the phone rings was a huge problem. And mezzing/rooting/tanking was much more difficult with people constantly breaking mez, attacking rooted mobs and no discord to even let people know what's going on.

People were discriminatory to any pet class period because pets liked to get lost and train groups. In general the thought process was 'why complicate things and die when you don't have to'

[Frostback]

Technology made the class more op. I knew a really good enchanter on povar that had his own dedicated phone line just for eq, and a high end pc.

https://web.archive.org/web/20000621...enc_ruri.shtml

In closing...

The enchanter may be looked upon as weak, as they are in certain areas. Their damage output is very low, and their pets are weak. But proper manipulation of their spells will cause the enchanter to outperform any other class, it's just a matter of using the correct spell [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Dolalin]

Originally Posted by Frostback [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Technology made the class more op. I knew a really good enchanter on povar that had his own dedicated phone line just for eq, and a high end pc.

https://web.archive.org/web/20000621...enc_ruri.shtml

Uh, from that same post:

I highly suggest against using Charm to solo. Although Charming may get more monsters killed, it's quite risky, and you never know when that faithful Mesmerise spell may fizzle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[bwe]

Originally Posted by Dolalin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Uh, from that same post:

Dolalin, you killed mages. It is your duty to kill enchanters too

[r34m]

Charm is working as intended, frostbacks guide is definitive proof. A 5 min charm is a good charm. With tash. He doesn’t even mention malo or -MR items, or torches.

[Tist]

Yet I rarely see enchanters soloing deep into in dungeons. Why? Because it takes skill and is dangerous. QQ more noob.