Why do people seem to hate luclin so much?

[Eliseus]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not sure I can say I've seen anyone argue this, because we understand that we are minority and that's why we are here on Project 1999 and the reason a select few of us were (the development team) were ambitious enough to restore that experience.

If you want PoP go play TakProject. If a similar experience will suffice, go play anything else. If neither of those appeal, persuade someone to make a server to your liking. Otherwise you are stuck with what we have here :/ Sorry.

Get off your high horse. Can people not argue the greatness of an expansion without caring if it was ever implemented or not?

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by Eliseus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Get off your high horse. Can people not argue the greatness of an expansion without caring if it was ever implemented or not?

Not sure I follow the high horse deal. I was acknowledging that we players who prefer classic EQ are in fact a minority. How that elevates us in your mind is beyond me.

But yes, you are free to discuss whatever you like. Interestingly though the title of the thread is "Why do people seem to hate Luclin so much?" But it has served as a pitching ground for the glory of Luclin. And that's fine, but don't go off half-cocked on people who are answering the question.

If you like I can go create a thread titled "Why do people seem to like Luclin so much?" And we can rehash this whole discussion again, but backwards! ^^

[Aviann]

Not to mention when we finally got to PoTime it was broken and we took a raid suspension for actually getting as far as we did for no god damn reason... Literally a raid suspension for testing ourselves in a plane we deserved to finally be in after a lot of effort.

I still love you Jumjum, but PoP wasn't all about handouts. It had an intense and contested endgame as well as a fuckton of quests that were dealing with the Gods and demigods themselves, which was amazing as hell, even to the casual.

[Erydan Ouragan]

Shit handed to you for free? Yeah..

Like Daldaen said, the rathe council event in PoE was extremely challenging, because one mistake or bad luck, it was over.

I remember us doing it, the whole thing took hours. Everyone had to pay attention and stay focused. Overdps and kill the mob? Wipe it and start over. Chanter gets a bad string of resist and mob wakes up? Chanter gets 1 rounded, mob is free and attacking everyone in the mez-cave, that's another wipe.

Thinking PoP was a welfare expansion with handouts is ridiculous. Not only the raids were hard, but you also had to compete for them, and competition was ferocious. Between guilds and between players in the same guild too. The drama over Blade of War from RZ... Guilds disbanded because of that shit.

[Alhill]

I loved luclin, but it was the begging of the end, I hope we never see it :P:P

[iruinedyourday]

you know what else had growing subs, world of warcrafat.

[Itap]

There is a reason why Project 1999 has had the highest population over any other EverQuest Emulator over the past 5 years.

I look at classic Everquest (Vanilla +RoK and SoV) as a separate game from SoL and beyond. I'm not denying that the game did not get better with Luclin, but it deviated from, what I feel, the original design. Again, just my opinion.

But I guess every MMO has to adapt and cater to everyone or else people will lose interest and SOE will lose subscription money.

[Millburn]

Originally Posted by slappytwotoes [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hard to take this guy seriously after this quote...

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[slappytwotoes]

Luclin and PoP were fun but that doesn't make them classic.

[Norathorr]

I did not hate luclin, I just found it underwhelming compared to velious. A lot of it felt incomplete. Seru and Karts for example should have had lots and lots of quest arcs. The seru side in particular felt rather barren and forgotten. I liked the shard quest as I had some really fun groups particularly in Me when our cleric fell asleep and we fought by his side until 3 hours later a gm finally despawned him. Ssra was a great raid zone I adored it. Vt was horrible mobs with high Hp and zero strategy. Vt from an encounter point of view felt unfinished.

Atmosphere-wise luclin felt wrong to me. It looked almost like another game and I know its the moon but it was so far detached I just felt I was not in my good old eq anymore. I think i loved velious so much that luclin was doomed to come second best to it in my mind.