Official PSA - ALL GUILDS - Judgement Day is Coming

[Nlaar]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not that I'm not happy to give some out, but that's exactly what it is.

FUCK THAT - I WANT $5000

Based on Loraen's calculations of the Divinity proposal result:
$100 paycheck
$70 to 3 guilds
$30 to 5+ guilds

$70 / 3 = $23.3 per guild
$30 / 5 = $6 per guild

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not that I'm not happy to give some out, but that's exactly what it is.

FUCK THAT - I WANT $5000

Welfare doesn't run on donations and donated time. This is closer to the penny tray, non-profit organizations and the food shelf. Except a minority of the people want all of the pennies, homes and pumpkin pie filling and the majority think a fairer distribution is in order.

[Rararboker]

Originally Posted by Ravager [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Welfare doesn't run on donations and donated time. This is closer to the penny tray, non-profit organizations and the food shelf. Except a minority of the people want all of the pennies, homes and pumpkin pie filling and the majority think a fairer distribution is in order.

Oh shit, someone is dropping logic!

[Eloian]

Perhaps it's time for Rogean to let us know when Velious is actually coming. Within 2-4 months? 6? Just a nice Ballpark would likely help.

Eloian Bushlover (I gotta go see Mommy Tunare!)
57 Ranger <BDA>

[Mezzmur]

Originally Posted by citizen1080 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

With Velious on the horizon, any proposal that does not factor in that content is unacceptable. Otherwise we are going to be right back where we are now X months from now.

IMO, we should see how Velious plays out, its going to change so much that it's worth being pulled back to the table. We're talking months not weeks in the future. There will be so many more raids to factor in and we don't even know how the mobs cycles will be implemented yet.

[Sinestria]

Originally Posted by Nlaar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Based on Loraen's calculations of the Divinity proposal result:
$100 paycheck
$70 to 3 guilds
$30 to 5+ guilds

$70 / 3 = $23.3 per guild
$30 / 5 = $6 per guild

But you can still try to pry $50 of the $70 and add to your $6!

[Splorf22]

Originally Posted by Nlaar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Based on Loraen's calculations of the Divinity proposal result:
$100 paycheck
$70 to 3 guilds
$30 to 5+ guilds

$70 / 3 = $23.3 per guild
$30 / 5 = $6 per guild

A guild like The A-Team would be able to pick 5 times or so in the rotation. We would lose 1/3 of our mobs to late-night pops. So The A-Team will get 3 mobs a month. BDA will get 5. TMO will get 35. Clearly ridiculous.

[quido]

Except these same people never had an interest in pennies/pie/homes before, never worked towards getting these things in the least under the previous understanding, and now they read some Karl Marx and think they automatically get a large cut.

[DrKvothe]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nonhardcores wanting to go from 0% rotation to 50% rotation is absurd. It's like people on welfare all of a sudden having a say in how much money they get and not being happy when offered $2500 a month - FUCK THAT I WANT $5000

Rogean:

We are all for competition, but it needs to be fair competition. We are also all here for the same thing, to experience classic Everquest. The same guild monopolizing raid content for 2 years that they might not even need anymore is ridiculous, just to block other guilds from the chance of gearing up to take on the same end game content.

I was thinking to myself the other day and I came to ask myself.. Are we providing this server to give people the arena to compete to such bitter extremes that it has resorted to taking every absolute measure to be victorious, or are we here to provide a classic Everquest experience for everyone to enjoy?...

To be clear, we want an enjoyable raid scene for everyone, not just one or two guilds. This means working together to figure out a compromise when racing for mobs, and working with smaller guilds to let them have a chance at mobs you don't absolutely need for gearing main characters.

What were you saying?

[Erati]

i love the how the Divinity plan tells the guilds when the mob is going to spawn and helps them get free loot

OH WAIT we still have to actively track/prep for the mob because of variance which isn't going away AND kill it within the agreed upon engage time or else it becomes FFA for everyone

damn reading all these comments I figured you were just handed GM summoned loot