Ranger vs Paladin for pvp? - Page 2

Weekapaug · #1 05-18-2012, 10:25 PM

Very nice of you, again. I will look into the quest for sure....completely forgot about that. I've always done the camp the old fashioned way, which would require a suitable class in the 40s if memory serves. I think the quest was designed to be done much lower with the tradeoff being that the sword is no drop as opposed to the droppable version.

I think it procs at 30? Still a great weapon, though.

Very cool of you, Sam, thank you again.

Weekapaug · #2 05-18-2012, 10:32 PM

Doh! Not classic:

http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...sword+nobility

Now that I think of it, I think the quest version came during Luclin or PoP.

A1551 · #3 05-19-2012, 10:23 AM

procs at 20 at least on blue and it makes soloing unrest very viable in the 20-30 range, even beyond altho not nearly as overpowered over 30. It drops in guk in classic from a mob who also can heal and lay hands, making him kinda a PITA for his lvl.

If I was rollin a meelee on red I'd be torn btw ranger and paladin too -- but I think I'd go with paladin. I was a cleric on live and loved the survivability and utility pvp and a paladin by 50 can do most of the same tricks a cleric can with some unique ones of his own..plus actually being able to do dmg of course. Additionally I'd say the paladins a better pve class too for the grind -- I'm playing a pally on blue and I gotta say they're really underrated. I also felt the exp penalty didn't matter a whole lot under level 50, for what it's worth.

Weekapaug · #4 05-19-2012, 07:32 PM

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procs at 20 at least on blue and it makes soloing unrest very viable in the 20-30 range, even beyond altho not nearly as overpowered over 30. It drops in guk in classic from a mob who also can heal and lay hands, making him kinda a PITA for his lvl.

If I was rollin a meelee on red I'd be torn btw ranger and paladin too -- but I think I'd go with paladin. I was a cleric on live and loved the survivability and utility pvp and a paladin by 50 can do most of the same tricks a cleric can with some unique ones of his own..plus actually being able to do dmg of course. Additionally I'd say the paladins a better pve class too for the grind -- I'm playing a pally on blue and I gotta say they're really underrated. I also felt the exp penalty didn't matter a whole lot under level 50, for what it's worth.

Thank you. I used to tool around on my GFs pally that I twinked for her back in the day but it's been so long I couldn't remember. Camps not bad if you have the right toon....camped it for someone on blue with my 45 druid a few weeks ago....the key is weeding all the shamans out of the surrounding rooms so the lord cant get heals. Racial hide helps so you can just leave all the greenies up and hide/med between pops (greenies aggro if you sit).

The $64k question....any idea what one goes for on red? Or if one can even be had? A guy was auctioning looking to buy one all night in /ooc and eventually someone told him "no one sells ghoulbanes here." Which got my attention, to say the least.

Weekapaug · #5 05-19-2012, 07:24 PM

Just wanted to say thanks to Samwise for a little PL he helped me with last night. He tried once earlier, but someone attacked him. Later he helped me finish 4 and get thru 5 in a couple mins. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Thanks again Samwise.

He had to log earlier than he thought, but not being able to do more than that kind of worked out....This slow melee skill-ups bug thing is no joke if you are untwinked. Most of my skills were capped for level 4 but there was a one level gap when I got to 6...headed to CB and in my mixed cloth and patchwork armor, tarnished short sword and with the new mob flee speed, I had to zone the first 2 or 3 pulls I did. After a few skillups here and there I was able to kill the entrance mobs. A few more and I could clear the whole front area. It is shocking what a difference that makes, and it would appear that weapon skills (minus DW from what I noticed on another toon) plus offense and defense are bugged so that they skill up way slower than they should.

A while later a guy comes in....apparently hes a fairly heavily twinked melee class who got PLed to the teens and came to CB to catch his skills up. We get to chatting....apparently hes got his work cut out for him because he wasn't getting skillups and some mobs were running him from the zone because his skills were so low.

This skillups bug is a problem and and I would advise anyone making a new toon before the patch to avoid PLing, especailly if you are untwinked and a melee.

That hybrid exp penalty sucks too, btw, not that I didn't expect it. The two together completely blow, though, because one basicly doubles your experience needed, the other cuts your ability to get it. A double hit. I've already concluded that training points + cash is probably how I'll wind up getting 2HS up for pvp.

I quit playing my war at 25 during blue classic because of the aggro situation. No wonder there are never any tanks around, really. It's just easier to play something else, not deal with the limitations of a melee, not deal with this melee skills bug, and not have to deal with an exp penalty taboot.

I'm sticking with it for now because, overall, it's been fun and I'm curious to see how this will go, but just for the sake of discussion......I had narrowed it down to paladin or ranger for PvP....the PvE is in danger of putting me off of it LOL....Are there any particular, non-hybrid classes that are needed higher up on the server? I realize at this point we need everything, but is anything particularly lacking? Druids and shaman is out because I have those on blue....and I would doubt there's a lack of either. Enchanter appeals for some reason. As does cleric. For melee, monk, maybe? Blue is a monkfest. How is it here?

After tonight's session I won't be on for a couple of days....When I get back would be a good time to re-roll if I do, is why I ask.

Weekapaug · #6 05-19-2012, 08:03 PM

By the way if any of that seemed whiney, I'm operating on no sleep and was suprisingly frustrated by the bugs and crap I ran into last night. Came into this prepared to take my beating from pvp not the pve and found a lot of that kind of frustrating.

I LOVE this game and these servers, but I'm starting to feel like I might be wasting my time and I'm not sure why that is, but it's not fun. There's nothing else I'd rather be playing.

Beastro · #7 05-19-2012, 08:53 PM

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By the way if any of that seemed whiney, I'm operating on no sleep and was suprisingly frustrated by the bugs and crap I ran into last night. Came into this prepared to take my beating from pvp not the pve and found a lot of that kind of frustrating.

I LOVE this game and these servers, but I'm starting to feel like I might be wasting my time and I'm not sure why that is, but it's not fun. There's nothing else I'd rather be playing.

The newbie speaks wise words.

Wolfgang · #8 05-19-2012, 09:29 PM

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By the way if any of that seemed whiney, I'm operating on no sleep and was suprisingly frustrated by the bugs and crap I ran into last night. Came into this prepared to take my beating from pvp not the pve and found a lot of that kind of frustrating.

I LOVE this game and these servers, but I'm starting to feel like I might be wasting my time and I'm not sure why that is, but it's not fun. There's nothing else I'd rather be playing.

ya bro i admire that you wanna play pally but with this pop this really is a casters game unless you twinked or got a guild to carry you up. gl bro and ill help anytime i see you on and im not busy.

Weekapaug · #9 05-19-2012, 09:47 PM

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ya bro i admire that you wanna play pally but with this pop this really is a casters game unless you twinked or got a guild to carry you up. gl bro and ill help anytime i see you on and im not busy.

Thanks again, Sam. Your help already as well as your encouragement and that of others' has been awesome.

I'm sticking with it for now. I was prepared for a challenge but had a bit of a rude awakening with the compounding issues, is all. And even if I don't stick with the pally I'm going to play something here, for sure, time permitting.

For you guys on the mid-high end....If I were to consider another class have you noticed anything in particular lacking? Surely with 80 people on peak something comes to mind?

I played a mean rejuve cleric on daoc...not to be immodest but aside from a couple pros I knew who were unreal, I could keep a group up in 8v8 as good as any about healer I ever saw in that game, while usually kiting half the melees in circles at the same time, albeit it was Molvik (and the up to 49 BG forget what it's called) since it was an alt....pvp support can be super fun I've just never done it in EQ. Enchanter?

Wolfgang · #10 05-19-2012, 09:53 PM

Oddly I havent seen any shammys around in the last 2 days. One way to find out is a cool little command not many people know about.

in game type
/who all druid count

obviously where druid is you can type warrior, halfling, ogre, mage, whatever race/class you wanna check. Itll tell you how much of that type is online atm. its a good way to see what classes play at what times.