Is monk vs warrior dps really classic right now?

[Orruar]

The monk has a better weapon and better haste than you, on top of more double attacks and likely attacking from the rear while you're attacking from the front and losing dps to mob dodge/parry/riposte. Throw in flying kick and yeah, no wonder he's doing twice the damage.

[Splorf22]

Originally Posted by Orruar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The monk has a better weapon and better haste than you, on top of more double attacks and likely attacking from the rear while you're attacking from the front and losing dps to mob dodge/parry/riposte. Throw in flying kick and yeah, no wonder he's doing twice the damage.

If you people would read my post you would see we both attacked from front/behind equally. If anything I was spending more time in the back. He has 3% better haste and a weapon with a 20% better ratio than Staff of Battle. And actually I had shaman STR/DEX on a good part of this fight, so the actual difference is even higher [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And fisch, my logic is this: Post-nerf, Verant intended monks to take about 10% more damage than Warriors. Since Monks also get all sorts of toys like FD, they probably didn't intend Monks to do 100% more damage than warriors as well, which would make Warriors . . . kinda useless. Yet Monk damage was not nerfed. In fact I seem to remember reading somewhere that their intention was 1 / 1.2 / 1.4 warrior/monk/rogue (of course that doesn't mean they actually pulled it off, this is Verant after all).

[Splorf22]

Just digging into the numbers a little more, Flying Kick was about 15% of his DPS. It was mostly just the Peacebringer. Kick for warriors btw is about 0.5 dps or so [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Orruar]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just digging into the numbers a little more, Flying Kick was about 15% of his DPS. It was mostly just the Peacebringer. Kick for warriors btw is about 0.5 dps or so [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So 15% of his dps is 30% of yours. The difference in weapon is likely about 10-12%, haste is a few % (depends on the rounding). Double attack difference is 10% or so. Who knows what your STR is compared to his. Total these up and you're looking at 55% or more depending on STR. You parsed yourself with staff of battle at 26 dps and the "long term" parse for him is 36 dps, a 40% increase. This would lead us to believe that warrior dps is too high currently and needs to be nerfed. Of course, your 26 dps number is on a single mob. Perhaps you should do some actual parsing (multiple hours) before drawing any conclusions?

[Orruar]

Also, what's his STR vs your STR? My guess is that monks stack more +STR than warriors...

[Lazortag]

Originally Posted by fischsemmel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not sure if I should be happy or sad that my 46 bard can chant for 25 dps. Heh.

If you get good enough instruments, your DPS can more than double that at level 60 (keep in mind also you get extra dots at 48, 59 and 60)

[melkezidek]

Another thing you need to look at 2hand gains alot more from Riposte then 1 handers do. So if he is getting swung at his dps is going to go up just from the big hits. IMO try using a comparable 2 hander.

[axius]

how do warriors dps?

get the best ratio 2h wep you can afford

keep your hp < 40%

[Versus]

You woulda been a lot more pissed off had you been wondering about this in the first few months after Kunark dropped.

[joppykid]

One thing I don't know if you're taking into account is flying kick which can hit for over 100. That is a huge difference in DPS.