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Old 12-13-2011, 03:54 PM
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Fixed procrate on sword of runes and bonethunder staff, pending update.
what about the issue of them swords procing an ALL mobs right now ? they are only supposed to proc on summoned creatures. lvl 50 players on red99 exploiting left and right on the server and they killed naggy unlegit with this bug
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Old 12-13-2011, 04:01 PM
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what about the issue of them swords procing an ALL mobs right now ? they are only supposed to proc on summoned creatures. lvl 50 players on red99 exploiting left and right on the server and they killed naggy unlegit with this bug
You use the words exploit, bug, and unlegit.

But, what you mean is, you disagree with the classic mechanics of npcs proccing sword of runes on non-summoned npcs.

That is an entirely separate discussion. Go, discuss. There are threads. If you can't find one; make it.
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Old 12-13-2011, 04:25 PM
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You use the words exploit, bug, and unlegit.

But, what you mean is, you disagree with the classic mechanics of npcs proccing sword of runes on non-summoned npcs.

That is an entirely separate discussion. Go, discuss. There are threads. If you can't find one; make it.


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lvl 50 players on red99 exploiting left and right on the server and they killed naggy unlegit with this bug

Here is part of the post I would hope someone would answer Nilbog. he might be wrong about the procing on non-summoned creatures, but the dps increase from this bug definatally brings into question recent Naggy, tranix, Rokyl kills.

I just want consistancy. We Delevel a guy who farmed a rare mob for 6 months straight on p99 preparing to do turn ins for kunark. The reason for the delevel was very clear " He should have known better, and reported it "

This needs to start being enforced. This after the fact fixing and not holding anyone accountable is killing morale of honest folk.
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Old 12-13-2011, 04:45 PM
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This needs to start being enforced. This after the fact fixing and not holding anyone accountable is killing morale of honest folk.
It actually encourages people to not report bugs, but to actively abuse them.

Even honest players will see it as a way to level the playing field with people who abused their way up; And they will be right.
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Old 12-14-2011, 12:57 AM
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You use the words exploit, bug, and unlegit.

But, what you mean is, you disagree with the classic mechanics of npcs proccing sword of runes on non-summoned npcs.

That is an entirely separate discussion. Go, discuss. There are threads. If you can't find one; make it.
No, what I mean dawg is:


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He might be talking about this patch:

October 13, 1999
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Optional Patch

- A new zone, The Temple of Solusek Ro, is now available via the
optional patch.

General Enhancements
- Experience and looting rights are now awarded for group aggregate
damage. This is now true for ALL servers. We still consider this
change in ‘TEST’ and will conduct a poll as to whether it positively
addresses the kill stealing situation in approximately 2 weeks.
- As mentioned on Saturday, Rubicite armor will no longer spawn. The
new class specific quests to obtain the new armor are now in for each
class that could wear Rubicite.
- Journeyman’s Boots will no longer spawn where they did but rather are
the products of a quest.
- To address trade fraud (players removing items/money immediately
prior to trading to deceive the other player), items/money may only be
removed by clicking on the “Cancel” button.
- When receiving a text message from either an NPC or PC speaking in a
language other than “Common Tongue”, if the user’s language skill is
high enough, the language being spoken will be noted preceding the
text.
- The fishing pole will now appear in the player’s hand whenever the
fishing skill is used.
- A number of quests were both added and enhanced throughout the zones.

Trade Skills
- A number of new items have been added to Blacksmithing.

Spell Enhancements
- Some of the Items that Magicians summon with their spells have been
made better or had their effects increased.

- Fufil’s Curtailing Chant, Tuyen’s Chant of Flame and Tuyen’s Chant of
Frost have all had their effects slightly increased.
- The Burnout Series has had the negative HP component reduced
(improvement) and the stat buff increased (improvement). Because of
this, the spells are no longer permanent. They now have a 15 minute
duration. Burnout III has also had its casting cost reduced.
- Illusion: Werewolf attack speed component now works as intended.
- Insipid Weakness will research as intended.


Reading the old description on the old Castersrealm website seems to indicate that at some point the proc was added (and at a later date changed to function as Ward Summoned was intended).

Again, this spell (proc rate fucked version or not), did not exist on Rallos (A PVP SERVER) in 1999 in any fashion that I remember, but here is your patch notes for 6mo into game when it was first added. Grats Cast
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Old 12-14-2011, 03:43 AM
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also interesting - burnout had a lower hp component for pets, and the effect was only "reduced"
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Old 12-13-2011, 04:02 PM
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The developers will do what they can. What they decide is best, period.
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Old 12-13-2011, 04:06 PM
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Or the issue with the -30 modifier applying to all mobs instead of only Summoned types? This is a violation of game mechanics, and if I had a mage, I'd be able to provide more data, but unfortunately must leave that to others.
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Old 12-13-2011, 04:42 PM
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Or the issue with the -30 modifier applying to all mobs instead of only Summoned types? This is a violation of game mechanics, and if I had a mage, I'd be able to provide more data, but unfortunately must leave that to others.

The fact it procs on non- summoned, and the negative 30 resist adjust on all mob types is classic untill mid Kunark.

The proc rate was just wrong.

No, it does not make sense, but thats the way it was classically.
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Old 12-13-2011, 04:54 PM
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You missed his point brinkman.
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