Why is everyone against item loot?

[runlvlzero]

Originally Posted by Tamiah2011 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I enjoy the risk factor and Ive had some really nice items ganked off me before.It make the game much harder which I liked and keeps the big mouths in check.If your hardcore pvp you have much more fun being a wanted man lol.

Ya I'm in favor of high risk if I ever came back to play on a red server, but its a pain in the ass for anyone without a dedicated EQ playtime schedule, and discourages newbs.

But EQ is the only game that ever made itemloot work... that I have played and it wasn't as bad as people make it out to be, forces you to not play alone.

[mimixownzall]

Originally Posted by Tajin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It won't get to the point where people will run around naked because they had all their gear ganked. I am from RZ so it was fun for me questing and trying to get a full set of no drop. And players who do aren't cut out for pvp. Ya'll neet to play better!!

Idiot, they run around naked cause they prize their pixels. Why is item loot the be-all, end-all argument for whether you are cut out for pvp or not?

[Mardur]

It can work but not with the default EQ implementation.

[Tamiah2011]

Because players today want there cake and eat it too.Just like the emplyees today are lazy asses and dont want to work and want to be paid .

[Yukahwa]

I think the doom and gloom is misplaced. It means the in game economy is better..items not so overpriced because they can be stolen from you, and it means twinks have something to lose. People are going to get turned off by invincible twinks they can never retaliate against once people hit 50 and start making alts.

[Bardalicious]

Originally Posted by Yukahwa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think the doom and gloom is misplaced. It means the in game economy is better..items not so overpriced because they can be stolen from you, and it means twinks have something to lose. People are going to get turned off by invincible twinks they can never retaliate against once people hit 50 and start making alts.

Truth.

Though, it worked on Rallos Zek because of the player base. It had an equal balance between PVE and PVP. The ruthless nature of potentially losing your hard earned pixels bred things like the anti-PK mind set, for people that were afraid of being killed and having shit stolen. It kept the system in check imo.

As much as I'd like to have item looting on Red 99, the server would need to be heavily reliant on a PNP-style rule set, and I just don't know if I see that happening with this community. We're talking about the people that will kill you for your cloth tunic when they've got 1mil plat banked just to shit on you and laugh while doing it.

Am I saying that is wrong? No. To each their own. But I can see how that would potentially scare away new players, unless they had guilds to turn to that would be there to help them, just like RZ did.

[tbox]

Originally Posted by Bardalicious [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Truth.

Though, it worked on Rallos Zek because of the player base. It had an equal balance between PVE and PVP. The ruthless nature of potentially losing your hard earned pixels bred things like the anti-PK mind set, for people that were afraid of being killed and having shit stolen. It kept the system in check imo.

As much as I'd like to have item looting on Red 99, the server would need to be heavily reliant on a PNP-style rule set, and I just don't know if I see that happening with this community. We're talking about the people that will kill you for your cloth tunic when they've got 1mil plat banked just to shit on you and laugh while doing it.

Am I saying that is wrong? No. To each their own. But I can see how that would potentially scare away new players, unless they had guilds to turn to that would be there to help them, just like RZ did.

Good point basically you can make the game play just like classic but you cant duplicate the playerbase/community that was around in 1999.

[Humerox]

Originally Posted by Yukahwa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think the doom and gloom is misplaced. It means the in game economy is better..items not so overpriced because they can be stolen from you, and it means twinks have something to lose. People are going to get turned off by invincible twinks they can never retaliate against once people hit 50 and start making alts.

An Anti-PK guild is already forming. Red99 wiill be a bit harder on the gankers, I do believe.

[tarni]

Originally Posted by Humerox [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

An Anti-PK guild is already forming. Red99 wiill be a bit harder on the gankers, I do believe.

question how can u make an anti pk guild and what will they do on the server ? yell at ppl they may not attack or somthing.. becures. if they heal og kill. they are player killers.. so they cant be anti pk guild :P unless they just give away free stuff to help ppl. and let em die. when they might get attacked..

And i would like item loot. it worked good. on Vz atlast i got pretty fast full gear :P if ppl killing ppl for stuff the items will just cycle from player to player so if u lose item. go kill another and get their item... whats the fun if its coin only. ppl just destry the coins... no point in killing ppl.

Tarni Shadowdancer - Vallon zek - Twelve Prophets
Cleric

[Sorath]

Originally Posted by Humerox [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

An Anti-PK guild is already forming. Red99 wiill be a bit harder on the gankers, I do believe.

This will only entice the wolves to eat the weak minded.

Have you ever seen how the gazels travel in packs, and if in a split second one strays ..or is too young or weak to keep up with the herd it is snatched up by the jaws of nature, gone, no more, digested.

Just like the gazel the young noober will seek the pack, but will stray...curiousity? maybe. Lost? Maybe The warmth of the mother hen feeling? maybe.. and just like the gazel he will be snatched up by the jaws of a die hard killer Pvping wolf....gone,no more, DIGESTED!