Girdle of Living Thorns or Belt of Dwarf Slaying?

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Dundrige [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why?

Dwarf Belt has better all res, as you get MR/CR/FR instead of just FR from Girdle. DR/PR usually isn't prioritized, so those resists on girdle aren't too exciting for most people.

Aura of Battle is always nice too. ATK will slightly boost your DPS, which is always welcome on a Knight. The +2 HP Regen is nice as well when you aren't wearing Fungi.

As you said, the extra mana is nice as well.

[Ripqozko]

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sorry the only societal interaction you're capable of is living in an ezmode server that's been in Velious for 10 years and marred by 15 years of non-classic coding, try therapy.

red has been in velious for just as long, all 10 people on it.

[Keebz]

Originally Posted by Dundrige [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why?

INT/WIS, AoB.

Two things you want on a hybrid. Mana, ATK and HP regen are evergreen for you.

As for the other stats:

15 PR / 15 DR are worth basically nothing.

15 STA is nice, but you'll STA cap elsewhere.

DEX / AGI aren't great, but you're capping with Avatar anyway.

The clickie is nice for a reset, but the actual effect is 4 damage shield. Nifty, but not making a difference and only relevant for face tanking.

Remember you rolled a hybrid and not a pure melee. You're garbage without mana.

[Zuranthium]

Originally Posted by Keebz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The clickie is nice for a reset, but the actual effect is 4 damage shield.

It gives 25 AC too. Or is this part of the supposed "AC doesn't work properly after reaching the softcap" problem on p99?

Originally Posted by Ripqozko [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

red has been in velious for just as long

With far less people farming and a play environment that's more classic than Blue, thanks to the inherent added danger and ability to contest content that PvP brings.

Not that this is relevant to the thread anyway. Do you love to strawman so much because those are the only human-like entities that will allow you to have physical contact with them?

[Ripqozko]

Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It gives 25 AC too. Or is this part of the supposed "AC doesn't work properly after reaching the softcap" problem on p99?



With far less people farming and a play environment that's more classic than Blue, thanks to the inherent added danger and ability to contest content that PvP brings.

Not that this is relevant to the thread anyway. Do you love to strawman so much because those are the only human-like entities that will allow you to have physical contact with them?

do you like that strawman because those are the only 10 people you can communicate with on red?

[Naethyn]

DS > all

[Naethyn]

but get both

[Snaggles]

If you are taking hits the girdle is objectively better. Yaulp4 and it doesn’t stack.
If not, AoB is better than Thorncoat.

Ideally both but if you have to pick, get the Girdle and a turtle belt for like 50k on blue.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Snaggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you are taking hits the girdle is objectively better. Yaulp4 and it doesn’t stack.
If not, AoB is better than Thorncoat.

Ideally both but if you have to pick, get the Girdle and a turtle belt for like 50k on blue.

I am not so sure about that, at least on a Paladin who is actively Yaulping. Since Spikecoat and Yaulp4 don't stack, this produces an interesting wrinkle.

Mobs swing every 2 seconds, unless they are hasted or slowed. This means 4 damage shield will do 2 DPS (4 damage / 2 seconds) if the mob hits every time. Obviously that doesn't happen unless you are spamming sit. At a 70% hit rate, you'd get like 1.4 DPS with Spikecoat. This assumes the mob isn't slowed, casting spells, running, etc.

AoB + Yaulp4 gives you +26 ATK. Let's assume the Paladin is already max STR, so the STR isn't helping DPS. According to my DPS calculator, a 60 Paladin with Great Spear of Dawn (53/46 2h weapon), 61% Haste (41% worn + 20% from eyepatch), and 255 STR would gain roughly 1.4 DPS as well from +26 ATK.

Yaulp4 gives 15 AC compared to Spikecoats 25 AC. But remember than AoB gives HP regen, so you are still getting a defensive bonus in exchange for -10 AC.

They are both pretty comparable in most scenarios. AoB will have the advantage if you are slowing mobs or fighting casters. If you are fighting a raid mob that flurries, then spikecoat will have the advantage. But that does assume you have a buff slot for spikecoat for that raid encounter.

[Naethyn]

Unresistable damage is special.