Most overrated items

[Atmas]

On this server I would say AoN.

I had one back on TZ and it had several benefits there:
1. Skeletal Illusion made it tougher to spot my wizard in mass pvp.
2. Skeletal Illusion, I believe actually decreased my high elf hit box size.
3. Instant cast buff, which I guess is still a benefit on this server.
4. Clicking it would instantly bring you to a complete stop you if you were on a horse. I had the horse from Emp in Ssra, it was badass to be able to come out of high warp on that mother and instantly start a nuke. Was pretty sweet in that regard for pvp and quadding/kiting.

3 could be a benefit on this server with dispelling mobs and 4 may be if they make the decision to go to Luclin.

Currently not worth the ludicrious price it goes for here. Though, skele illusion is cool.

[Arillious]

Originally Posted by Atmas [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

On this server I would say AoN.

I had one back on TZ and it had several benefits there:
1. Skeletal Illusion made it tougher to spot my wizard in mass pvp.
2. Skeletal Illusion, I believe actually decreased my high elf hit box size.
3. Instant cast buff, which I guess is still a benefit on this server.
4. Clicking it would instantly bring you to a complete stop you if you were on a horse. I had the horse from Emp in Ssra, it was badass to be able to come out of high warp on that mother and instantly start a nuke. Was pretty sweet in that regard for pvp and quadding/kiting.

3 could be a benefit on this server with dispelling mobs and 4 may be if they make the decision to go to Luclin.

Currently not worth the ludicrious price it goes for here. Though, skele illusion is cool.

AoN was one of the most sought after pvp items. The ability to make yourself hard to target and have players not be able easily distinguish your class was a huge advantage. It also took up a spell slot and could be used to block dispells.

[Muerte]

Originally Posted by Messianic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Cloak of flames could only possibly be worth 500k+ to me if it actually set your character on fire.

That made me laugh[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[visage]

In my personal opion a few things come to mind.

First JBB, a bracer that I can click and cast a 8 second nuke... Funny thing is for eight seconds I could be doing something else. Now I'm not saying there isn't use for this item ,however the emotional state people seem to follow is just borderline ridiculous. People advising others to make a shaman that isn't iksar just because of a item clicky , that poses no game breaking advantages. Sure theres reports of shamans soloing dragons with a JBB, but you don't think theres other items that could help accomplish this feat?

Second would be the mana pool debate. Now clearly there are some advantages of larger mana pools verse lower. I can think of way to many times where a large mana pool wasn't a key factor in a sucessful group. Now if you were to relate this with twinking a lower character , obviously the character will be able to do more in the group. Either way tho theres downtime in the game regardless. So that one pinnacle of where that character with the larger mana pool has to have a time to regain it. Like everyone else in game the regen of mana is the same rate , unless influeced by a buff or item. Sure the cleric might be able to get a few more heals in with that little bit extra mana , but regardless other stats are being ignored.

Now clearly there has been adequate testing on this game for years. So some stuff is proven to work better than others. Personally what defines a unique character for me , is the ones that are able to accomplish a lot with out having to fall into the trends of others , so much that it defines their class or play ability. For instance I got the privelege of group with a ranger the other day. This ranger maxed all his wisdom via starting stats. He was in his mid thirties with a ton of wisdom gear. More than the average ranger. When confronted about as to why? He responded " I like having a bigger mana pool so I can CC, and employ my class differently then others make it". Well maybe it's just me , but that hit home for me. To top it off this ranger was damn well played. We were pulling mobs from Lguk and this dude had well over three rotted at one point in time. Not to mention snared. Sure it may not sound like much , but we all know how crappy root could be on this game. Yes the ranger neglected his role of "DPS" for the time being , however he was able to deliver us really adequate CC. Now whether or not his gear served a purpose or really was " Game changing , to these skills" I found it awesome that despite of the social conditioning , he played how he wanted to play.

So in essence, there is more to this game than following the social trends of items play styles etc. Though I may have dropped off topic, in regards to over valued items etc. I believe it all trickles into the social conditioning people are placed into this game. I for one love seeing stupid crap, cause sometimes it works. Though a monk with max intelligence ( I wont name who) was rather funny....

And for the record (edited in) I hate the item " Fungi Tunic", regen is so overated in this game its laughable , may help with downtime hp , but damn for the amount of money for this item. You can hire some druids to run across wherever and regen you for the right amount of cash. Be smart. Work with others and make friends. ( PS give the fungi tunic to me, I'll be your friend ) =P

[Extunarian]

Originally Posted by visage [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

First JBB, a bracer that I can click and cast a 8 second nuke... Funny thing is for eight seconds I could be doing something else.

JBB is not overrated, especially since it goes for 12-15k on this server. If I had a warrior and a shaman that I played equally, and had 14k to buy either a JBB or a FBSS, I would pick the JBB every time.

I don't think you understand how much mana it takes for shaman to do dps by themselves, especially since our pets no longer hit for 4x53 every round.

[baub]

Originally Posted by visage [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In my personal opion a few things come to mind.

First JBB

Stopped here but i am sure the rest of your points were equally as stupid.

[Pyrocat]

Originally Posted by visage [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And for the record (edited in) I hate the item " Fungi Tunic", regen is so overated in this game its laughable , may help with downtime hp , but damn for the amount of money for this item. You can hire some druids to run across wherever and regen you for the right amount of cash. Be smart. Work with others and make friends. ( PS give the fungi tunic to me, I'll be your friend ) =P

It's hands down the single best item this server will ever see for a shaman. I still don't think it should be selling for 150k though.

[Messianic]

Originally Posted by Muerte [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That made me laugh[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] I was hoping for a pity chuckle or two...

Originally Posted by visage [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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[Kika Maslyaka]

Originally Posted by azeth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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You need to be in a very, very specific circumstance to want pay 500k for 36% haste considering:

A.) There's a haste cap
B.) Sky haste is easily attainable for any guild with a bunch of 60s
c.) Monk/Rang/Rog have epic haste.

I agree, CoF is by far the most over-valued item, considering it no longer even carries the "wow" factor.

History have shown that HC will only be going for 500-1k plat 5 year later, while CoF will be selling for 80k-150k - prices as of 2004

CoF - and haste in general was overpowered - even original devs have admitted years later, that they should never have introduced such higher haste items so early into a game. They claimed that if they could go back, the CoF would have like 8% haste, and FBSS 4% etc.

[Mcbard]

It's hard for me to understand the premise of this thread when so far 2 of the items lister are BiS and another is simply an uber vanity item. Maybe if we were going for "overpriced", but it's hard to overvalue BiS and rare vanity items imo! Some people are into that sort of stuff. If you have any of that stuff and you don't value it shoot me a tell with a price please! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]