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Old 07-12-2011, 02:51 PM
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At the same time, there are worse questions that get repeated in roughly the same frequency.
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Old 07-12-2011, 02:55 PM
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For aggro generation, are you talking about slow song? That's the biggest aggro generator I've run into, and I've known paladins, SKs, and even warriors that can out-aggro that song.

Also, bards get crap for tanking skills compared to the true tanks, and even rangers have higher tanking ability caps/earlier levels learned.

But I guess with enough Singing Steel and stacking AC in every slot possible, you could tank. But then wouldn't you want to try to find AC neck/ears?
You can mez, charm, aoe slow, snare, you're probably pulling... if you want to take aggro from ANYONE, you can. You can find ac neck and ears, but they still won't be as useful as hp/mr/dex/cha in as many situations, as the AC can be pretty sparse for those areas.

In most high level groups, you're going to be crowd control anyway and they will want you to stay out of melee. Till then holding aggro is the prime requisite to being the group tank and I believe the bard excels at both that and mitigation.
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Old 07-12-2011, 03:42 PM
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Damn... should have underlined the date of that circled thread too.
Ya I actually read that other thread too. Its a bit confusing. Maybe a bit more advanced that what im looking for an It seems like everyone there is contradicting eachothers information. And its mostly based about starting stats etc. Im only curious about gear really.
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Old 07-12-2011, 03:59 PM
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Dexterity absolutely determined your chance to miss a note in Classic; I've noticed on the character creation screen that it attributes Charisma to that effect. Which is false... so I'm not sure if that's an artifact of whatever they used to lift the code but Dexterity was 100% responsible for holding a tune on Classic.
I can't seem to find authoritative answers regarding whether dex or cha is responsible for missed notes. I see credible people saying both.

Can you or someone else show which one it is, and how you know that?
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Old 07-12-2011, 04:03 PM
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Somewhere in one of these bard posts, someone said that someone definitively proved that CHA, not DEX, was responsible for less missed notes.

How's that for knowledge?!?!?!!?!?!!!!
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Old 07-12-2011, 04:05 PM
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I can't seem to find authoritative answers regarding whether dex or cha is responsible for missed notes. I see credible people saying both.

Can you or someone else show which one it is, and how you know that?
I played about 5 bards to 55+ from Kunark to LDoN and it was a very well-known thing. There must be a lot of information around regarding it, I just won't play a bard anymore without #Melody which will never happen on P99 so I don't care to search it out honestly.
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Old 07-12-2011, 04:23 PM
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If you really just want to blow through the levels with a bard, here's what you need:

Vendor Lute
Vendor Drums
Full Set of Banded
2x Opalline Earring
2x 5/55 Rings
MAYBE a Troll-Hide Belt

If you're feeling Saucy, get:
Sarnak-Hide Mask (the 4 STR one)
MM Lute/Drums (Anything over 250pp for the pair is a ripoff)
Troll-Hide Belt
Dwarven Work Boots
Hero Bracer

The people running around in full lambent at lvl 20 are just showing off how they have more money than ability to actually play a bard.
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Old 07-12-2011, 04:37 PM
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The people running around in full lambent at lvl 20 are just showing off how they have more money than ability to actually play a bard.
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Old 07-12-2011, 05:04 PM
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Singing Steel looks better (to me) and is more effective.
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