[Need Help ASAP] Lists and Lines For Camps

[Zeboim]

You absolutely could hand it to someone in your guild.

But it would, of course, be a dick move. One of the ultimate dick moves possible.

[sajbert]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is the issue on pve servers, you think the GMs will rule in your favor, and boy are you going to be aggressive as heck to make that point in tells.

If you're not at the camp logged in waiting when the last guy got his AC ring it should go to someone who is sitting there patiently.

”Should”? In accordance to what rules or what established practice? The player agreement nor the server outdoor canp rules don’t support that claim.

Your OPINION may be that it ”should” go to whomever waited at the camp the longest but it’s not how it works. Why would we even want to push for it? It’d just be detrimental to fun.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

If they are logged out for more than like 10-15 mins, I say they lose their spot. That small grace period is just to account for disconnects or zone crashing. It isn't really the responsibility of the list keeper to constantly /w the people in the list and check on them like a babysitter.

If you are playing an alt, stay online so you can be contacted when it's your turn. Ideally you should just afk park your toon there, thats what I did for Stormfeather. You are simply increasing your risk of losing your spot otherwise. If you are offline for an hour, there is no way to know if you are even coming back.

Logs are easily manipulated, so that isn't really proof of anything. You would need to ask the previous list holder to be sure.

[Ooloo]

I think scout roll is essentially just a player agreement too right? But gm's afaik will punish people who don't stay to help kill, or bring chars below 55 to roll etc..

Or is that somehow different than the AC camp?

[fortior]

You can just take any camp you want, OP. Just tell the tired Guide who pms you after 10000 petitions but really doesn’t care about non raid level disputes ‘oh sorry thought I was first’

[Chikorita]

Wish people would report actual guide interventions on actual situations so we had some kind of case law to go by. What players say is irrelevant. What guides do is relevant. Players make up all kinds of rules in their heads but they don't have the ban hammer so who cares. From reading this thread it sounds like you can just have a single guild lock down the camp forever.

"Can i get on the list"
"No, the list already goes on to infinity between CharA, CharB, CharC and CharD. Sorry"

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Chikorita [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wish people would report actual guide interventions on actual situations so we had some kind of case law to go by. What players say is irrelevant. What guides do is relevant.

https://wiki.project1999.com/Camp%20Rules is literally this. Everything listed there comes from a public GM ruling quote.

Originally Posted by Chikorita [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

From reading this thread it sounds like you can just have a single guild lock down the camp forever.

This is largely correct. It sounds (and is) incredibly lame, but our all-volunteer staff doesn't have the bandwidth to enforce proper/classic lists ... which is exactly why they introduced the P99 version ... /list.

[Infectious]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

https://wiki.project1999.com/Camp%20Rules is literally this. Everything listed there comes from a public GM ruling quote.



This is largely correct. It sounds (and is) incredibly lame, but our all-volunteer staff doesn't have the bandwidth to enforce proper/classic lists ... which is exactly why they introduced the P99 version ... /list.

So OOT AC, the next player has to have a presence in the zone or he loses his spot. Good to know.

[PatChapp]

Originally Posted by Infectious [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So OOT AC, the next player has to have a presence in the zone or he loses his spot. Good to know.

The camp rules are pretty clear on this,the camp holder can pass to whomever they want as long as they are within a few minutes of spawn.

[sajbert]

Originally Posted by Chikorita [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

From reading this thread it sounds like you can just have a single guild lock down the camp forever.

"Can i get on the list"
"No, the list already goes on to infinity between CharA, CharB, CharC and CharD. Sorry"

This is exactly how it works as per the p99 camp rules. That is WHY there are player agreements as well as why /list was created for select camps.