Developer Input - CPU Limit Cutoff

[orangefrog]

If anyone plans to purchase a new computer from this point forward, you won't be able to run Project1999 anymore.

I purchased the lowest level Ryzen chip a couple of months ago, spent a week trying to get the game to run on the new PC using all sorts of tricks, processor affinities, downclocking, nothing worked. Ended up just using an old laptop while my shiny new PC sits there and collects dust until I use it to play another game or for office work.

After some reading, I think it has to do with the anti-cheat that P99 uses for speedhacking and the new processors trigger it every time. Its not a matter of whether this should be fixed--that's obvious. As time goes on and people upgrade their PC's, people simply won't be able to play the game anymore. New people trying to install the game (people's kids, friends) will most likely just give up. Hopefully a dev finds the time to dig into that mechanism and update the code with this in mind before it affects the server populations too much.

[Willigetin]

I too am experiencing the same issues. Get passed login screen, then to server select but as soon as i select a server (Green in my case) i get booted back to login screen. This is devastating as now I can't even play at all and I just spent thousands of $$ on a new PC and already got rid of my Intel setup. I really hope this can get fixed.

[Drunkennewbie]

Has anyone found a fix to this?

[Willigetin]

I have a fix for this. My CPU is an R9 7950x my default CPU modifier is 45x100 totaling in 4.5Ghz speed base clock. I was able to make P1999 100% stable by simply booting into my bios and setting my CPU multiplier to 42x100 so now my base clock speed is 4.2ghz. I’ve had zero crashes and it ALWAYS let’s me login without a hitch whatsoever. At first I was upset because nobody buys this CPU so you can underclock it..you buy this CPU to do the exact opposite 😂..but with all that being said, I have not noticed any real world performance issues whatsoever in any other newer games at all.

I hope this helps you and others out and hopefully people read this thread because I have spent over 10 days on this and finally found a compromise I was willing to deal with.

Good luck!

[Drunkennewbie]

I really dont want to have to underclock a processor for full computer.... Im using a R7 7700 4.5.

There has to be a way to throttle it back just for one app.

[Headcase_Fargone]

Originally Posted by Willigetin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have a fix for this. My CPU is an R9 7950x my default CPU modifier is 45x100 totaling in 4.5Ghz speed base clock. I was able to make P1999 100% stable by simply booting into my bios and setting my CPU multiplier to 42x100 so now my base clock speed is 4.2ghz. I’ve had zero crashes and it ALWAYS let’s me login without a hitch whatsoever. At first I was upset because nobody buys this CPU so you can underclock it..you buy this CPU to do the exact opposite 😂..but with all that being said, I have not noticed any real world performance issues whatsoever in any other newer games at all.

I hope this helps you and others out and hopefully people read this thread because I have spent over 10 days on this and finally found a compromise I was willing to deal with.

Good luck!

This is what I've been doing but I have a side effect of my Windows clock constantly running fast. This only happens when the multiplier is forced to 42. The longer Windows goes without rebooting the more my time is off.

[Mordos]

Originally Posted by Willigetin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have a fix for this. My CPU is an R9 7950x my default CPU modifier is 45x100 totaling in 4.5Ghz speed base clock. I was able to make P1999 100% stable by simply booting into my bios and setting my CPU multiplier to 42x100 so now my base clock speed is 4.2ghz. I’ve had zero crashes and it ALWAYS let’s me login without a hitch whatsoever. At first I was upset because nobody buys this CPU so you can underclock it..you buy this CPU to do the exact opposite 😂..but with all that being said, I have not noticed any real world performance issues whatsoever in any other newer games at all.

I hope this helps you and others out and hopefully people read this thread because I have spent over 10 days on this and finally found a compromise I was willing to deal with.

Good luck!

Did you ever find a fix? I have the same PROC 7950X and when I tried to lower my clock speed the damn thing wouldn't even post, I ended up having to reset CMOS remove Memory before it would even post (thought I bricked it).

[Joffeyhinton2000]

Originally Posted by Willigetin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have a fix for this. My CPU is an R9 7950x my default CPU modifier is 45x100 totaling in 4.5Ghz speed base clock. I was able to make P1999 100% stable by simply booting into my bios and setting my CPU multiplier to 42x100 so now my base clock speed is 4.2ghz. I’ve had zero crashes and it ALWAYS let’s me login without a hitch whatsoever. At first I was upset because nobody buys this CPU so you can underclock it..you buy this CPU to do the exact opposite 😂..but with all that being said, I have not noticed any real world performance issues whatsoever in any other newer games at all.

I hope this helps you and others out and hopefully people read this thread because I have spent over 10 days on this and finally found a compromise I was willing to deal with.

Good luck!

where exactly are you changing the speed of processor i have asus primeb550+ i dont see a place to manually change it that looks what you described ive wrestled with this problem for so long months i found some success with a VM but ultimately led to crashes also. any help would be greatly appreciated

[Innoeus]

Originally Posted by orangefrog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If anyone plans to purchase a new computer from this point forward, you won't be able to run Project1999 anymore.

I know this entire project being fan run and not-for-profit has limited resources, but this is going to be a real and growing problem that needs to be addressed if at all possible.

I love the way P99 enshrines the original EQ experience, so really want it to survive this shift in PC hardware that's triggering it now.

I have a 7950x, and I am really hoping that whatever is triggering this is actually addressable by the team working on P99 and not some impossibility, as the population of PC's that can play is and will continue to slowly shrink otherwise.

[corymaloy]

Originally Posted by Innoeus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have a 7950x, and I am really hoping that whatever is triggering this is actually addressable by the team working on P99 and not some impossibility, as the population of PC's that can play is and will continue to slowly shrink otherwise.

I think it IS addressable. I noticed that any other emulated server works fine, its only p1999 that seems to have this issue. I'm guessing its some sort of anti cheap mechanism but who knows.

Additionally after operating with the ryzen master workaround posted previously, I realize that there are some major issues. First of all, while the clocks are correct, I find that my other apps have strange lag and hang ups randomly. This actually makes other competitive games unplayable. Thus I'm back to square one. I also couldn't get p99 to work properly with VMware, so I'm not sure what to do. It's sad because I'm feeling the p99 itch.

Is there some way to formally file a bug or something?