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Old 02-07-2021, 08:38 PM
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Rule 14.1 - perma ban leadership accounts
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Old 02-07-2021, 09:19 PM
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The question we are all ignoring is:

Who will become the next ST?

All that has been done is the removal of the top predator in the ecosystem. Now the coyotes or potentially coywolves will move in. The beginning of the "top-down trophic cascade has started." Governments never can properly managed anything...

Does Kingdom become the next top dog and take all the Trak kills creating the exact same scenario? Or do we go full AOC/socialist and have Kingdom handout free loot to everyone even though they put in all the effort to gear, level and kill the mobs?

When will they be eradicated like the wolves of Yellowstone until there is nothing left, and the elk graze the shrubbery down, destroy the river and harm the overall ecosystem?

The only true fix is the rfeintroduction of wolves.

I for one am happy to receive some free Trak/VP gear. Please twink all my alts before you can gear yourselves. Oh also, please give me VP key components on all my toons, but you need to farm them for me. Just PM when it spawns and let me get there for it then I can log back off. How do I get GM guarantees that I will receive my equal share of the top 1%'s wealth?
Someone clearly doesn't understand what they're referencing at all. Seal Team weren't wolves, and their affect on the server was nothing like the wolves in yellowstone. Also, calling a business insider story a scientific article? Chamon. Don't make references to shit you don't understand, it just makes you look stupid.

Now, I get the point that you're trying to make. You're trying to say that the way Seal Team behaved will be no different than the guild that replaces them, that the 'shape' of the ecosystem won't change. Frankly I don't think that's fair. ST behaved incredibly poorly, I think that yes, one 'most competitive' guild will likely emerge, but I doubt their behavior will be close to as toxic as ST was.

ST leaving the raid scene isn't going to cause a trophic cascade, they weren't keeping the server healthy. They were a fucking cancer, and I don't think anyone outside their ranks and DMO gives a fuck that they're out of the raiding scene. We'll see how they do trying to prema-camp keys (and I'm sure keep other sought after spots perma-camped) goes for them, classic cancerous move.
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Old 02-07-2021, 09:24 PM
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We'll see how they do trying to prema-camp keys (and I'm sure keep other sought after spots perma-camped) goes for them, classic cancerous move.
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Old 02-07-2021, 09:43 PM
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Don't make references to shit you don't understand, it just makes you look stupid.
Please stop pretending humans are good by nature. Once a certain guild gets a certain amount of targets more will move to get targets themselves and so on. Alts are things, more than one account are things, its been 11 or so years. Please stop pretending all of Seal Team is gone. You are less safe now that perma-bans are things because if your friends/guildmates grow too much, you are also liable.
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Old 02-07-2021, 09:47 PM
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Please stop pretending humans are good by nature. Once a certain guild gets a certain amount of targets more will move to get targets themselves and so on. Alts are things, more than one account are things, its been 11 or so years. Please stop pretending all of Seal Team is gone. You are less safe now that perma-bans are things because if your friends/guildmates grow too much, you are also liable.
Yes, "growing too much" is what caused the raid ban.
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Old 02-07-2021, 10:19 PM
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I spent all weekend pooping in every sock I have and I still have no dragon loot. How is this supposed to work anyway? Fuck this new age shit.
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Old 02-07-2021, 10:38 PM
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Old 02-07-2021, 11:06 PM
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Old 02-07-2021, 11:08 PM
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Old 02-07-2021, 11:13 PM
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Please stop pretending humans are good by nature. Once a certain guild gets a certain amount of targets more will move to get targets themselves and so on. Alts are things, more than one account are things, its been 11 or so years. Please stop pretending all of Seal Team is gone. You are less safe now that perma-bans are things because if your friends/guildmates grow too much, you are also liable.
Not pretending all the issues will go away. I'm not really worried about getting perm-banned because if my guild ever tried to pull the kind of shit ST was pulling routinely, I wouldn't be in that guild anymore.

You should also understand, that plenty of humans are good by nature. We had some incredibly toxic members of our community banned from the raid scene. There are plenty of decent people who were in ST, it's just that they were willing to deal with the BS folks because dragons.

While I'm sure there will continue to be drama in the raiding scene, being rid of ST is a boon to everyone who participates from here on out.
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