So how many of you will really go to green?

[Hoppkins_Wytchfinder]

Originally Posted by xCry0x [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

For the same reason anyone gives up one game and moves to the next.

I played blue. I got to 60. I did the kunark raid scene. I quit. I came back, did the velious raid scene. Quit again.

Green presents a forced reset - no twinks, no crowded raid scene with 5 million alts. No insanely inflated economy. Makes it a "uniquely" new experience.

If I was still leveling to 60, I agree, I'd probably not want to drop my "unfinished" character and start over.

My only dilemma this time around is do I play a class that fits my lifestyle (Druid/Necro -- something that can solo). Or a class that fits what I enjoy most, which is the social element of leveling, but will get stuck in the horrible EQ experience of spending your entire night LFG and accomplishing absolutely nothing on a day-day basis because you cannot find a group.

This is how clerics are made.

I started a cleric because i heard they were what got groups. I wasn't wrong. I ended up raiding past planes of power with a cleric from Kunark. I ended up being utterly bored with it. Facing walls in raids casting complete heal.

Not much point to this post i suppose other than warning people off making a character other than the one they want to play. Getting groups easy is initially amazing but turns to ashes in your mouth unless you really want to play it.

It's a good way to get an upper hand on a server as you will not want for groups, people will hound you for rezzes/ports and the like and more than likely you will have access to higher up loot and likely make money quicker.

But you will likely end up making a new character eventually.

In my case i ended up raiding with a character that bored me and was valuable for almost only one spell (Complete heal) and my clicky epic.

On the other hand if you can stand the above and are fine remaking yourself with a twink then maybe not a bad idea [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Not sure my testicles could bear it all over again though [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

EDIT: To be clear i loved being a cleric bar the raiding. Seems most classes had a bit more of a fun time with it due to variety (E.g. pulling etc)

I loved helping people, being wanted and a valuable class etc.

[astuce999]

Oh boy, you guys are in for a treat.

Don't be fooled by the term "vanilla". Original EQ is pure crack. It hasn't been cut with anything else. Progression servers or whatever they call it nowadays are nothing; it's methadone at best.

What you are about to experience in a couple of months on Green, is a second shot at Eden. You just have no idea yet.

You will miss sleep. You will miss work. You will forsake your family and friends.

And when you catch a glimpse of the time and it's 2:43am on a Thursday, and you're still debating whether to log or not since you've only finally gotten into this camp that drops your quest piece for lambent armor(it has stats!!), and you realize you haven't logged in any of your blue server raid toons in weeks, you will smile.

And you will remember this post.

Astuce

[Neno]

Originally Posted by astuce999 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Original EQ is pure crack. It hasn't been cut with anything else.

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[xCry0x]

Originally Posted by Hoppkins_Wytchfinder [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is how clerics are made.

I started a cleric because i heard they were what got groups. I wasn't wrong. I ended up raiding past planes of power with a cleric from Kunark. I ended up being utterly bored with it. Facing walls in raids casting complete heal.

I made a cleric on p99 because I like to rotate roles when switching between MMOs and I was due up to be a healer again.

I also figured they would be desirable in groups and remembered the pain of trying to get groups on live vanilla wow.

I can say that from my experience in p99, being a cleric didn't inherently make it easier to get a group. Groups only need 1, and there are a pile of other people making them for the same "it will be easy to get groups" reason.

So I agree, play what you want to play. Except rangers. Nobody ever needs a ranger. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Axlrose]

When I discovered Project 1999 three to five years ago, basically I copied my Live characters verbatim. I have added a few more since then, but since I am still adventuring on Blue - highest character only level 29, no real point to jump to Green. By the time I "catch up" to where I am on Blue, Green will be recycled!

[El-Hefe]

Of course I’m playing green. Blue is fine and all, but with the amount of free/cheap gear floating around it is more of a PL/Twink server and less of a classic experience.

[loramin]

I strongly suspect most people will try Green. I also strongly suspect that many of the people who do think they're going to stick with Green, but won't, because they'll realize how much better of a game Blue is.

A fresh economy sounds great, but when you're running around with a rusty tin pot on your head and a branch you found on the ground, with an ugly UI that doesn't tell you your pet health or exact mana or XP ... not to mention the fact that Green is going to just be a mess for the first couple months ... I really think a lot of the "I'm going Green" camp is going to come back to Blue.

So to me the really interesting question isn't "how many are going to try Green?", it's how many are going to stick with it past the first couple months. I really think the "better game" is going to win over "more classic" game for a lot of people (and again, a lot of the people that think they want a more classic game).

[zodium]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I strongly suspect most people will try Green. I also strongly suspect that many of the people who do think they're going to stick with Green, but won't, because they'll realize how much better of a game Blue is.

A fresh economy sounds great, but when you're running around with a rusty tin pot on your head and a branch you found on the ground, with an ugly UI that doesn't tell you your pet health or exact mana or XP ... not to mention the fact that Green is going to just be a mess for the first couple months ... I really think a lot of the "I'm going Green" camp is going to come back to Blue.

So to me the really interesting question isn't "how many are going to try Green?", it's how many are going to stick with it past the first couple months. I really think the "better game" is going to win over "more classic" game for a lot of people (and again, a lot of the people that think they want a more classic game).

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[soronil]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I strongly suspect most people will try Green. I also strongly suspect that many of the people who do think they're going to stick with Green, but won't, because they'll realize how much better of a game Blue is.

That's interesting. Obviously people have characters they are attached to, but I don't really see how blue is a better game to roll a new character on unless what you value is being able to easily twink a melee class and solo your way to the upper levels. For me, I am looking for a classic experience / nostalgia. Otherwise, there are simply better games to play.

There is really not a ton of changes to the game between start and end of timeline, mostly content. Sure you get 4 more hotbar buttons and a pet window on blue. It's not game changing for most. So really it's all about the itemization / economy / mmo dynamic (having people to play with)

Leveling on blue is made trivial by velious twink gear
Leveling on blue feels empty because you don't loot anything that matters (because you're twinked, even if it's your first char, you'll aquire high level gear gear quickly)
Leveling on blue is often solo, or in 1 area per level range. (if you can even find a group at your level range, there are some dead spots)
Traveling on blue is trivial. So many druids, so much plat. blows my mind to see all the level 10s in my casual guild begging for ports every 30 minutes to go try a new place. We just ran everywhere on live. Ports were a luxury.
Being on blue as a relatively new player surrounded by people that have been there forever.... meh.


As someone who really has just been on blue for the last month, the experience is a bit hollow. Will green be everything people hope it is? Probably not, but hopefully closer. I am looking forward to starting from scratch and slowly building up a character or two at launch. Anticipating then doing Temple of Solusek Ro quests at a point in the timeline when that gear is relevant. Experiencing as many dungeons as i can in a level / gear appropriate group setting.

[Zeboim]

Pretty much there with Soronil. Blue may be the better game mechanically, but it's also packed full of twinks, the progression is completely buggered, and 90% of the quests and content are wasted as suboptimal or pointless. It definitely makes for a more empty feeling world. Players in Green are going to have to use the whole buffalo due to gear/money scarcity, mob scarcity and camp competition. It will be interesting to see if it pans out. Maybe it won't, maybe it will. Hard to say.

Perhaps what I'm interested in even more than pure classic however, is Kunark and Velious launches with timeline appropriate resources. That's going to be a pretty different ballgame for most people than how it was on Blue. I'm hoping we'll actually see the lesser traveled Kunark dungeons get packed full of people, major activity in LOIO, the boats through TD being populated, people actually doing all the assorted quests etc.