*ATTENTION* PVP PPL

[Bruno]

Plenty of people fly under the radar. Gear doesn't mean shit though. Top 5 in your battle group and I might say I refuse to believe they click.

[Abacab "The REAL truth"]

Originally Posted by Bruno [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Plenty of people fly under the radar. Gear doesn't mean shit though. Top 5 in your battle group and I might say I refuse to believe they click.

gear means a lot...

I could have the exact same skills as a top 5 PvPer, but if I'm rolling in with 372 heroic raid gear (ashkandi, T11.5 etc) I'll get rolled by my PvP equivalents simply because PvP gear reduces a shit ton of damage, while PvE gear is designed to make you deal out more damage.

The issue is they don't overlap, that fact Tralina can turn my 51k hits into mere 11k scratches (when she can heal for 16k) puts me at a large disadvantage. You can say skill is a factor but some of the best PvPer's are loaded with resilience, stamina, and use tank specs (blood DK anyone?) simply because they can out-live any DPS thrown at them.

But then again my major complaint about WoW PvP is it's reactionary, it's all about counters and CC, so certain specs have clear distinct advantages by having more survivability and crowd control techniques (frost mages, sub rogues, restro druids, and disc priests) making them near impossible to kill in a 1v1 situation unless major mistakes are made.

[Bruno]

Originally Posted by Abacab "The REAL truth" [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

gear means a lot...

I could have the exact same skills as a top 5 PvPer, but if I'm rolling in with 372 heroic raid gear (ashkandi, T11.5 etc) I'll get rolled by my PvP equivalents simply because PvP gear reduces a shit ton of damage, while PvE gear is designed to make you deal out more damage.

The issue is they don't overlap, that fact Tralina can turn my 51k hits into mere 11k scratches (when she can heal for 16k) puts me at a large disadvantage. You can say skill is a factor but some of the best PvPer's are loaded with resilience, stamina, and use tank specs (blood DK anyone?) simply because they can out-live any DPS thrown at them.

But then again my major complaint about WoW PvP is it's reactionary, it's all about counters and CC, so certain specs have clear distinct advantages by having more survivability and crowd control techniques (frost mages, sub rogues, restro druids, and disc priests) making them near impossible to kill in a 1v1 situation unless major mistakes are made.

I was merely referring to Taslion's post about how surprised he was that she could click with that much resilience. There are plenty of baddies with the best gear.

[Abacab "The REAL truth"]

Originally Posted by Bruno [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I was merely referring to Taslion's post about how surprised he was that she could click with that much resilience. There are plenty of baddies with the best gear.

I preferred Vanilla world PvP, where if you wanted to have the edge in PvP you had to work for it, either by sucking up with 39 other retards in week long Naxx raids, or kicking so much ass you could buy HWL's

Ever since arena was put into place the effort to be the best simply derives off point farming to buy gear that is on par with raid level tier, which gives a huge survivability increase therefore substituting skill for min-maxing and specific cookie cutter spec choices

[Kraftwerk]

Originally Posted by Abacab "The REAL truth" [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You can say skill is a factor but some of the best PvPer's are loaded with resilience, stamina, and use tank specs (blood DK anyone?) simply because they can out-live any DPS thrown at them.

One of the top 2's teams right now should not be double Blood DK. It is dumb. I play a Mage-Rogue 2's team, its fun, but the other day we went up against a Prot Paly - Blood DK combo. I don't want to ever meet these people who discuss building idiotic comps like that.

[Constellations]

Originally Posted by Kraftwerk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

One of the top 2's teams right now should not be double Blood DK. It is dumb. I play a Mage-Rogue 2's team, its fun, but the other day we went up against a Prot Paly - Blood DK combo. I don't want to ever meet these people who discuss building idiotic comps like that.

Got raped by dbl shadow the other day, Literally feared the entire match, couldnt do shit.

[Abacab "The REAL truth"]

Originally Posted by Kraftwerk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

One of the top 2's teams right now should not be double Blood DK. It is dumb. I play a Mage-Rogue 2's team, its fun, but the other day we went up against a Prot Paly - Blood DK combo. I don't want to ever meet these people who discuss building idiotic comps like that.

Blood DK is ridiculously overpowered, they can tank any encounter in BWD/BoT for a good 45 seconds without heals, I've known a blood who was able to solo tank chimaron cause his self healing kept him above 10k at all time

[M.Bison]

resilience ruined pvp in that game imo. vanilla wow was the height of pvp

[Kraftwerk]

Originally Posted by Abacab "The REAL truth" [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Blood DK is ridiculously overpowered, they can tank any encounter in BWD/BoT for a good 45 seconds without heals, I've known a blood who was able to solo tank chimaron cause his self healing kept him above 10k at all time

Yea, I played a Blood DK through WOTLK and into early Cata. The massive amount of self-healing and magic dmg reduction was a huge boon in PVE, made things lot easier for my 10man. But then I got bored with MTing, went Mage so I could pew pew anonymously from the crowd, then got bored with Mage and find it a chore logging in for raids =/

[Juda]

135k hp wow this game is fuckin gay