Lore wise, are the Claws of Veeshan evil?

[ZiggyTheMuss]

Originally Posted by Crawdad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Planes of Power: We fuck things up so bad we have to be sent back in time.

kind of ironic considering that PoP fucked things up and now we find ourselves on p99, back in time.

[Xanthias]

Originally Posted by Crawdad [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Luclin has.. some kind of rationale, but all I remember is VT key PTSD.

Space Cats in search of Nip... and so so so much PTSD...

[Raavak]

Weren't Nagafen and Vox kicked out of CoV for considering to mate?
And of course VS is opposite CoV because of the whole sarnak warring with dragons thing.

[Sadiki]

I never thought CoV were evil. If anything, they're pretty good bros.

There's a subplot where Yelinak befriended a guy named Kragen Morshire, and he betrayed them, causing them to be wary of anyone else. It's to the point that he doesn't want you in Skyshrine unless you literally go kill his mortal enemy for him. I've never found this lore expanded upon.

[Dolalin]

Ethics are the pseudo-religious morals of people like Emmanuel Kant. Preachy and annoying, just like religious morals, but made even more insufferable by their supposed secular nature, as if they derive from natural law itself. They don't.

In short, kill everything.

[branamil]

The CoV believe in the superiority and domination of dragon kin. Their end goal is extermination of all non-dragons. So it’s moral to oppose them if you’re not a dragon.

Sub-plot: I think they should have put Illusion: Drake in the game.

[fastboy21]

Claws of Veeshan are the "good" dragons.

Ring of Scale are the bad dragons.

[Tobius]

Awesome replies my dudes.

RoS are obviously actively evil.

CoV, just because they oppose the evil RoS are a weird case. They are actively chill.... but they worship Veeshan who is pretty evil according to "word of god" game manuals and guides etc, there's a reason the other gods are scared of her and oppose her collectively, they aren't just jelly of her stats.

So if Veeshan were to come home and tell CoV to go kill everyone else, I'm sure they totally would... but is that justification for preemptively killing them now? What if it's safe to say we know she won't come back in even these dragons lifetimes... I dunno.

This all stems from a convo where my guildies advised me to kill a key mob in skyshrine for my alt rather than do the quest, but I'm ally with them on my main (who'd do the killing) and I'd feel like a treacherous dick.

I'd probably help the guild kill a big CoV dragon if it had sick loot but betraying a drake bro for nothing seems like a dirtbag move... I'm not a roleplayer but I can't bring myself to kill like coldains or frogloks who other players will kill despite being a paladin or whatever...

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Tobius [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm not a roleplayer but I can't bring myself to kill like coldains or frogloks who other players will kill despite being a paladin or whatever...

I'm the same way. As a Shaman it felt like half of the recommended solo spots were killing good guards, but I could never bring myself to attack someone who wasn't attacking me (raid mobs aside). When I finally got to the point where I could kill Grobb guards I pretty much embarked on Troll genocide [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Mate ithink you can do a quest for the key too?

This. IIRC anyone can do the quest even without help, as long as you're willing to eat a death (just invis to the giant, give him the item, get killed by the giants next to him for breaking invis, go back and get corpse).

[Jimjam]

Mate ithink you can do a quest for the key too?