<Tempest> Allowed to raid in the near future??

[Comoc1]

Damn. Wouldn’t it be crazy if Tempest got raid suspended before the even ever got to raid.

[Arkanjil]

Originally Posted by Comoc1 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Damn. Wouldn’t it be crazy if Tempest got raid suspended before the even ever got to raid.

Well...technically they still are raid suspended...

[Barcelona]

[QUOTE=Argh;2695758]yes, anyone who was in Awakened for the suspension will still be raid suspended and a new guild tag won't change that.
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This is understandable for a suspension that is currently active.

However, Does the same go for Suspensions not yet handed out? (i.e. in review/being held onto until the current suspension expires)

[Ella`Ella]

Originally Posted by Argh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This isn't just a name change (they have also jettisoned their former leaders [Eratani/Breaken]) but yes, anyone who was in Awakened for the suspension will still be raid suspended and a new guild tag won't change that.

I assume that they will still be treated as the same entity; however, they will probably be able to avoid more dramatically escalating suspensions since their entire strategy for handling disputes will likely no longer be to just ignore whoever is asking for the concessions and roll the dice with the staff.

P99 legal precedent states that in order to be considered an entirely new guild for the purpose of resetting your suspension counter you need to turnover the majority of the leadership and also have a significant turnover or addition to your general member base.

See IB + A-Team

[kjs86z]

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[Dman2701]

Serious question, will this become a tactic for guilds that get repeat suspensions? get to 40 days than cycle to new name so you reset back to 10 days?

[Freakish]

IB -> Rampage, avoided suspension handed down to IB. Already been done and it works!

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by Freakish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

IB -> Rampage, avoided suspension handed down to IB. Already been done and it works!

You mean TMO trying to rebrand as Forsaken as circumvent a suspension? I had to yell at Sirken at actually investigate, but he got around to it and enforced the suspension on Forsaken as well.

[Freakish]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You mean TMO trying to rebrand as Forsaken as circumvent a suspension? I had to yell at Sirken at actually investigate, but he got around to it and enforced the suspension on Forsaken as well.

No, I'm talking about when IB got a suspension for conceding Talendor, killing it. Reforming as Rampage and Sirken saying that it was fine for Rampage to raid during IB suspension.

[Barcelona]

Some half-hearted lawyerquesters in here for sure. Ella can we get your take on this ruling and previous cases?