Scout Roll: Can roll for others?

[Ay_1017]

That's what AM always do, no surprise at all

[Dreenk317]

every scout ive been to has had the "you roll, you turn in tools, you loot disk" rules, if im not mistaken, by rolling, you have agreed to the rules, and if you then break them, you are in violation of a player made agreement. and iirc, Sirken said in his last stream that he would enforce player made agreements among those parties that had consented to them. So, if someone rolls, and then sells it, or swaps to an alt to loot, or gives to a guildy. Theyve technically broken the player made agreement as stated before the rolls happened.

[Maner]

Originally Posted by Dreenk317 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

every scout ive been to has had the "you roll, you turn in tools, you loot disk" rules, if im not mistaken, by rolling, you have agreed to the rules, and if you then break them, you are in violation of a player made agreement. and iirc, Sirken said in his last stream that he would enforce player made agreements among those parties that had consented to them. So, if someone rolls, and then sells it, or swaps to an alt to loot, or gives to a guildy. Theyve technically broken the player made agreement as stated before the rolls happened.

Please show me where this player made agreement has been formalized in writing and isn't just your assumptions and or opinion of how things should be.

[Kesselring]

Originally Posted by Maner [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Please show me where this player made agreement has been formalized in writing and isn't just your assumptions and or opinion of how things should be.

Not written anywhere, thats just what people always say before every roll and everyone tends to agree. I mean it makes sense. Otherwise people will just show up with dual BoB's or talismans already and roll to sell loot or roll for their buddies.

[Dreenk317]

Originally Posted by Maner [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Please show me where this player made agreement has been formalized in writing and isn't just your assumptions and or opinion of how things should be.

Before every roll..... the rules for the roll are stated in /ooc. By rolling you have agreed to the rules, otherwise why roll? If you have agreed to the rules, by rolling, and then don't follow them, you would be in violation of said agreement.

[Legidias]

Originally Posted by Dreenk317 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Before every roll..... the rules for the roll are stated in /ooc. By rolling you have agreed to the rules, otherwise why roll? If you have agreed to the rules, by rolling, and then don't follow them, you would be in violation of said agreement.

See earlier post, it is never stated in ooc.

[Toomuch]

I was there for this instance of the scout roll yesterday morning, and as fate would have it, it was my first time being there. To me, it struck me as a little bit of a surprise that Aikons won the roll, as I highly doubted he needed it himself, but my very next thought was "oh, I guess that's how it works then, and it's one of those things that anyone can roll on, and sell/give away to their person of choosing". I didn't know a whole lot about the roll agreement personally, so I just thought that's how it was. Reading through this thread, however, it seems the waters are still a little bit murky on what the terms of the agreement really are.

It all comes down to the agreement being one way or the other, no room for interpretation. Either anyone/everyone can roll, or you roll for yourself only, with your own tools, your own loot. Both ways are ways that can work, and are justifiably "fair". I really am 100% OK with it either way. It just needs to be set in stone so that nobody can say "but I thought that it wasn't like that! That's not fair!!"

[Lojik]

Originally Posted by Legidias [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

See earlier post, it is never stated in ooc.

Do you think that the person who wins rolls needs to at least turn in tools?

I think it should be either you need tools and need to loot for yourself, or you don't need anything and anyone can roll.

[Dreenk317]

Originally Posted by Legidias [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

See earlier post, it is never stated in ooc.

Whatever, it's put in a public channel and everyone can see it if they are at scout.

[NecroP99]

Picking a fight with Aikons is not a good idea - he is AM royalty (and he is honestly a really nice guy from my interactions with him)