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Old 05-15-2017, 04:59 AM
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Charisma helps with missed notes
Dexterity helps with missed notes, not charisma.
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Old 05-15-2017, 10:04 AM
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Dexterity helps with missed notes, not charisma.
They both do based on my p99 research. There's arguably a lot of bad information out there - but that's the word on the street based on multiple sources.
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Old 05-15-2017, 05:49 PM
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based on multiple sources.
Care you post them? I'm curious
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Old 05-17-2017, 04:48 PM
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Something I've never found a straight answer on. Does charisma matter for Necro undead charming (and lulls)?
No, and it doesn't for druids either.
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Old 05-17-2017, 05:16 PM
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While we are talking charm, how important is 200 cha for a bard to charm effectively?
Just to go a step further than what was already said, I leveled my bard 55-60 almost exclusively charming with around 115-120 CHA and I can't think of a single instance of charm breaking early on a blue mob.

In my experience, CHA's importance to bard charming is very overstated on p99. With an Enchanter, higher CHA has a very noticeable effect on charm durations. For a bard, at least for me, either charm landed or it didn't.

A little piece of my soul dies every time I see a "WTB CHA twink gear for bard" auction.
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Old 05-17-2017, 06:45 PM
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A little piece of my soul dies every time I see a "WTB CHA twink gear for bard" auction.
Does it? What of bard lull and crit resists? Does charisma not affect bard lull? If it does then any bard who doesn't value charisma would be bad. Otherwise carry on.
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Old 05-18-2017, 09:34 AM
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Does it? What of bard lull and crit resists? Does charisma not affect bard lull? If it does then any bard who doesn't value charisma would be bad. Otherwise carry on.
Since you don't know the answer to that question, I can only assume you've never played a bard .

My post was specific to charm, yes it impacts lull but that doesn't change the fact it makes no sense for a bard to walk around in Opalline earrings/+7CHA rings/+7CHA Bracers if they're not expecting to lull something in the next 2 minutes or chain lull over a long period of time. This is especially true at low levels and of higher level bards that mostly solo.

A kobold's jester crown gives +30 CHA in one slot and is easily obtainable, Neriad Shawl gives +25CHA in one slot and is relatively easily obtainable on this server later in levels. I stand by my statement.
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Old 05-14-2017, 11:16 PM
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My friend brought up to my attention that high charisma on a bard is important for the initial resist check.
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Old 05-15-2017, 05:57 AM
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Ok so cha is needed but not to the point where its a major focus. Got it ty all
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Old 05-15-2017, 06:15 AM
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I thought CHA also helped with mez resists.
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