Open Halls of Testing raids

[Efwan]

Originally Posted by Colgate [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

HoT can be done by 1 group

good luck OP, i believe in you

[Troxx]

I recall raiding HoT during luclin era with average raid levels lower than 56.

Are resists on p99 that borked?

Granted ... During luclin bards had aoe resist buff and regen song lines.

[thufir]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I recall raiding HoT during luclin era with average raid levels lower than 56.

During Velious era if you came in sub-56 you got slaughtered and/or couldn't land anything. Can't speak for Luclin.

[Troxx]

I played a ranger during luclin era and I remember personally being there in the low 50s. We had a handful of 60s (less than 2 groups) and a smattering of player from the upper 40s to the high 50s. We made sure we had 100+ unbuffed fire/cold resist and I don't recall it being a death sentence. There was a lot of down time, mind you ... but it was doable.

Are the resists on p99 really that borked though? Like I said, on live the aoes were no joke, but it was doable in the low 50s to upper 40s.

[azeth]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I played a ranger during luclin era and I remember personally being there in the low 50s. We had a handful of 60s (less than 2 groups) and a smattering of player from the upper 40s to the high 50s. We made sure we had 100+ unbuffed fire/cold resist and I don't recall it being a death sentence. There was a lot of down time, mind you ... but it was doable.

Are the resists on p99 really that borked though? Like I said, on live the aoes were no joke, but it was doable in the low 50s to upper 40s.

With 255 FR/CR melee will need to be healed during the fight, not afterward. If the melee is a superstar with 5k buffed it's not bad, or if your raids DPS is really high you can kill them without mid-fight heals.

Aside from AEs/resists, the Wyverns rampage. So if your ramp tank goes down, now your PUG melee (typically low hp, non raid geared people) are getting slaughtered from rampage.

So obviously great raid composition makes it doable. Great DPS makes it doable. Great melee HP makes it doable. But overall, you need a lot of positive factors to get it done.

[Ciroco]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I played a ranger during luclin era and I remember personally being there in the low 50s. We had a handful of 60s (less than 2 groups) and a smattering of player from the upper 40s to the high 50s. We made sure we had 100+ unbuffed fire/cold resist and I don't recall it being a death sentence. There was a lot of down time, mind you ... but it was doable.

Are the resists on p99 really that borked though? Like I said, on live the aoes were no joke, but it was doable in the low 50s to upper 40s.

Can confirm, I was in HoT at 53 on Live and I'm pretty sure I take more damage from the wurms at 60 now than I did then.

[Colgate]

i usually have around 210/240 cold/fire resist and barely take any damage from the wurm aoes

every mob in HoT can be killed with 3 clerics, shaman, bard, monk

gl

[Nitsude]

The difficulty of HoT is being blown way out of proportion. Venerate has a large number of raiders below 56 and we do HoT just fine.

The challenge for this raid will be a few things:

1. Capable puller
2. Tank(s) with reasonable gear that know how to lead a push.
3. Cleric that can organize a CH chain / timings.
4. Torpor shaman for the ramp tank.
5. Enchanter that can drain caster mobs.

Resists are great, but there's no reason a melee has to die to AEs. If the healing is somewhat light, a low health melee just chills with the casters until topped off. Depending on how many bards show up, make sure your tank has max dmg shield -- mana song for the CH chain is great if it's available.

Good luck if you decide to do it.

[Man0warr]

Yeah but if every melee is low level with no resists and are all waiting to be healed, you aren't killing anything in a timely fashion.

[Nitsude]

Originally Posted by Man0warr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah but if every melee is low level with no resists and are all waiting to be healed, you aren't killing anything in a timely fashion.

That's an unlikely scenario; especially if they cap it at 56 and up. A 56+ cleric with mark of karn pretty much takes care of AE damage except fiery and burning guardians. Those will be the toughest mobs for sure, but it's doable.