Toons for Sale?

[guineapig]

Originally Posted by Winobot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Gms wouldn't. It would have to be enforced/controlled by the playerbase.

Exactly! We could at least try to control the transactions that are made on the forums being making a character name a requirement. Most of the transactions happen here anyway and anyone with nothing to hide won't mind.

There is nothing wrong with purchasing a mage to farm with in your off time because your main is permacamped in sky. Why should you keep this a secret? Why shouldn't you be allowed to know if that lvl 50 mage used to be the biggest griefer on the server 2 months ago?

That's just an example. but anyway, if the majority of the server wants to avoide the shadiness aspect of things then this would be a good first step. Have a subforum or thread in EC Tunnel for character sales and make the toon name mandatory or risk having the post deleted. End of story.

If people feel the need to circumvent that then it's more work involved for them and tough luck, nobody cares.

[Akame]

I dislike character sales because the person driving may have no knowledge of the class. A level 50 is supposed to have 50 levels of experience playing that class, and you just don't know now if they bought it yesterday or can actually play.

[Goobles]

This obviously is a GM enforced program. You can not name a character with 3 letters. They had someone change it.... my thoughts is that Bob is either a GM, or has really good ties to a GM.

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No problem, though. This is obviously a very safe thing to do, then. I don't care if it's being done. I think a lot of people are liquidating their 'extra' characters now that Kunark is coming out, and building up a bank for twinkage of their Iksars.

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[Asher]

Originally Posted by Goobles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This obviously is a GM enforced program. You can not name a character with 3 letters. They had someone change it.... my thoughts is that Bob is either a GM, or has really good ties to a GM.

Bob is just a middleman. It is someone else that is doing the PLing and going through Bob for the sales.


Asher

[citizen1080]

Originally Posted by Goobles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This obviously is a GM enforced program. You can not name a character with 3 letters. They had someone change it.... my thoughts is that Bob is either a GM, or has really good ties to a GM.

<3

No problem, though. This is obviously a very safe thing to do, then. I don't care if it's being done. I think a lot of people are liquidating their 'extra' characters now that Kunark is coming out, and building up a bank for twinkage of their Iksars.

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No GM program here sir =)

My name was originally Bobthe, however Mixxit went on a name changing spree due to policy violations and I made the cut. I logged back in after going to sleep to see my name was Bob. Worked out nicely for me I think!

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Regarding PL teams taking over low lvl zones while PLing:

You will only see amateurs doing this, it is far too slow for anyone trying to make money off power leveling to waste their time there.

From lvl 13 and on a good PLer shouldn't be anywhere but Lguk/SolB/Kedge. It's not about killing shit tons of mobs..its about killing mobs WAY over the toons lvl that you are PLing. Why kill 200 mobs in unrest for a lvl when you can kill 15 in Lguk.

I totally agree that a lvl 50 coming in a taking over unrest or some other zone to PL is frustrating and unfair. However, like I said the people you will see doing this is a buddy pling another buddy etc.

And before you say what about all those poor xp groups in lguk! Live side is all but dead except for the loot camps and dead isn't much better.

[Mcbard]

Originally Posted by Dunes [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hey guys,

Anyone who has noticed any trend to my posts whatsoever knows that Im a pretty upbeat, non complaining guy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But I ask you all to take a look a the the EC Tunnel thread and tell me what you see there. When I glanced today, 8 of the 20 non sticky auctions were for toons. This trend has grown significantly just in the last 3 months, and before long thats going to be a problem. Now, Im no economist, but something about this trend makes me uneasy.

Atleast on ther surface, this seems to be a very "unclassic" trend, but times have changed and we play our games differently these days. Personally, Im a little undecided as to whether this is a good thing (why?) or a bad thing (why?).

Without ranting or flaming, what are your thoughts on this?

Why I think it's a bad thing:
1. In an ideal world I think the more people time put into their toon the higher levels/better gear it should have. This obviously doesn't happen for a number of reasons, but in general that's what I believe, and selling toons violates this.
2. Certain characters have certain reputations the seller may know about that the buyer may not. This could perhaps cause some conflict?
3. It seems like a very disrespectful thing to do if you've been in a guild a long time and people have helped you gear up and make your toon better and you're just going to sell it.

I can't honestly think of any reasons why I would think it is a good thing, but it's mostly none of my business since I'm not the one buying/selling characters anyway. I guess it allows people who are bored with their main to switch things up and get a little plat out of it? That's the only good I see coming out of it.

[Crone]

Where is a noob going to get 50k+ for a level 50? From their main.. and if they leveled one toon up to 50, and farmed 50k plat, you don't think they will be able to play another class at least well enough to not be retarded? Maybe I give p99 players more credit than they deserve, but it's not that hard to play a toon...

[Chanus]

The problem isn't that the bought toon will be played by someone who doesn't know what they're doing.

The problem is if toon selling is the way things are, then people will only be farming plat or powerleveling toons to be sold. This results in greatly reduced opportunities for truly new players or players who are less concerned about being max-level to find other people to play with. It is a contributing factor to eliminating a viable less-than-max-level game.

[KilyenaMage]

Originally Posted by Chanus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The problem isn't that the bought toon will be played by someone who doesn't know what they're doing.

The problem is if toon selling is the way things are, then people will only be farming plat or powerleveling toons to be sold. This results in greatly reduced opportunities for truly new players or players who are less concerned about being max-level to find other people to play with. It is a contributing factor to eliminating a viable less-than-max-level game.

IE level 20 paladins wielding soulfires - etc.

Have fun trying to get a Rogue epic come kunark, when everyone with a lvl 50 pays to have a Rogue PLed.

[Nimblerot]

Originally Posted by KilyenaMage [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

IE level 20 paladins wielding soulfires - etc.

Have fun trying to get a Rogue epic come kunark, when everyone with a lvl 50 pays to have a Rogue PLed.

Then all those people who paid to have their rogues plvled realize that the server is oversaturated, they aren't needed, can't find groups, get frustrated and it all equalizes. People who are freaking out because they're afraid everyone is suddenly going to be a hard to level melee class need to realize that they're being really irrational.