We need more than 2 huge guilds

[sealer]

Originally Posted by Colgate [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

azrael very pathetic guild

No stable leadership is the problem, we have good players. We count on lite to everything and this is the problem

[Colgate]

Originally Posted by sealer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No stable leadership is the problem, we have good players. We count on lite to everything and this is the problem

you have like 3 or 4 good players, a bunch of worthless fairweather players,and then a bunch of active retards like yourself that are literally worthless

lite's horrible decision making skills are a big reason why you guys are so irrelevant, but it's not the only reason

[Steel Warrior]

I raid with Holocaust every day. We've teamed up with Fresh on a couple of occasions, and some of our members have helped them out on other occasions. We still fight against each other in many situations, as evidenced by Jeremy's Red99 Leaderboard. We just don't shit on each other, but we pretty much all hate Azrael.

Pretending that Holocaust and Fresh routinely raid together is pure propaganda, just like most posts from Azrael.

[Drakaris]

Originally Posted by Steel Warrior [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I raid with Holocaust every day. We've teamed up with Fresh on a couple of occasions, and some of our members have helped them out on other occasions. We still fight against each other in many situations, as evidenced by Jeremy's Red99 Leaderboard. We just don't shit on each other, but we pretty much all hate Azrael.

Pretending that Holocaust and Fresh routinely raid together is pure propaganda, just like most posts from Azrael.

I think this sums things up quite nicely...

[daasgoot]

holo and fresh raid together when azrael contests.

when azrael doesn't contest, holo tells fresh to recruit and contest.




fresh's leader hates azrael, and trains his blubies to hate them too..

atleast 75% of holo players only hate azrael because of the shit they hear from their leaders..

this is all just a few guys with a grudge, and a bunch of retards throwing rocks for them.

[karsten]

well that's of course primarily not true, secondarily super misinformed, and tertiarily short-sighted

i could fill in the blanks but would rather lol @ u

[Steel Warrior]

Originally Posted by daasgoot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

holo and fresh raid together when azrael contests.

when azrael doesn't contest, holo tells fresh to recruit and contest.




fresh's leader hates azrael, and trains his blubies to hate them too..

atleast 75% of holo players only hate azrael because of the shit they hear from their leaders..

this is all just a few guys with a grudge, and a bunch of retards throwing rocks for them.

Yes, I said that we've teamed up with Fresh a couple of times. Glad we agree.

[Drakaris]

Originally Posted by daasgoot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

holo and fresh raid together when azrael contests.

when azrael doesn't contest, holo tells fresh to recruit and contest.




fresh's leader hates azrael, and trains his blubies to hate them too..

atleast 75% of holo players only hate azrael because of the shit they hear from their leaders..

this is all just a few guys with a grudge, and a bunch of retards throwing rocks for them.

not quite true actually... I talk to ex-RD / Hokuten members and they unanimously have disdain for Azrael as a guild and some of the key players in it...

The server is healthy right now, PVP happens just like it did with classic and reputation is starting to matter... We are heading in the right direction...

[bouncerr 2.0]

ya and saying suave etc are all azrael feeder guilds is bs too.

if you want the shit talking to stop maybe you should do it first.

[heartbrand]

the problem is you have one of the two main guilds essentially saying they aren't interested in being a real Everquest guild, so is it any wonder the vast majority of people join holocaust? Azrael is very similar to how founding fathers and holocaust were in classic. Smaller guilds who considered themselves too elite to recruit. So what happened? Everyone joined the guild who always had its doors open, which was nihilum. Don't cry about mass pvp not happening when you aren't willing to be massive to have it.