Battle Shaman

[iruinedyourday]

Originally Posted by harnold [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

use the proc weapon for shamans that proc the lvl 34 shaman dot at lvl 30 for the best shaman meleeing in this lvl range

which one is that? I was trying to get my hands on the CT hammer but couldnt by the time it was too late.

http://wiki.project1999.com/Barbaria...ist%60s_Hammer

I believe it would wrek at 30 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Tann]

Originally Posted by iruinedyourday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

which one is that?

http://wiki.project1999.com/Blight,_...of_the_Scourge

[Jimjam]

Levelling up a barbarian cash route:

decaying skeletons to gear out in cloth and maybe grab a 2 handed hammer. look out for necros killing giants to sell bone chips to, perhaps for a FS 2 handed hammer. Also kill polar bear cubs for their pelts to turn into bearhide armor from qeyhills and maybe a polar bear cloak in everfrost.


Level two or three head to qeynos hills and kill rabid wolves. Fill your bank with diseased pelts until neither wolf gives xp. Kill gnolls too for fangs/xp. You can add in the rabid grizzly to your rotation till he stops giving xp. This is a good time to hand in the pelts for loads of plat and xp.

Next head to north karana and kill wisps until they stop giving xp and then turn in the GLS (just hand in the regular lightstones as you kill as they aren't as good xp and will fill up the bank too quick... or just vendor them).

Should have a tonne of plat by now. If your still under twenty kill sisters/bandits for bronze or doing the sash quest.

Not only is this route good cash for the level it is pretty fast xp too! In the unlikely event you still need more money to bank roll a decent melee weapon head to gargoyle island in OOT, which can carry you to mid/late twenties but sadly doesn't have an attached xp quest. Alternatively try to create a group scene in HHK killing goblins. The left ears sell well or can be sold tk players for decent plat.

[brecon]

If you roll Barbarian, then the Barbarian Spritist's Hammer does absolutely tear through mobs. The strategy is (1) put on regen and dex buffs, (2) pull with slow, (3) melee and wait for 256 DD procs.

At 35, with an Iksar Ceremonial BP and a Fungi Stick (so 20 regen / tick total), I was able to solo MM CE, Canni during the fight, and still regen HP, once I broke it. Of course, at 34 I got dog dog.

With this strategy, I was also able to solo CoM entrance and duo with rogues or monks at CoM stables starting at level 39. I slow-tanked CoM until I hit 50, when I moved to solo epic dotting.

Of course, you're looking at about 45-50k in gear to do that. But it is all resellable, and once you hit 50 and tactics change, you can use the proceeds to acquire something else. But at a minimum, if you can get a Barb Spiritists Hammer at a cheap price (I got mine for 3k, though I think 8k is more normal), you can do the same thing, and just need to recover a bit between pulls.

[justin2090]

Originally Posted by skipdog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Your method sounds absurdly inefficient. You can pretend you are doing great, but our melee DPS output is pathetic even vs. green mobs with a haste item, GFG, etc. I would strongly encourage you to do some comparative tests between the two methods. I know I tried both while leveling at multiple points when I was 24+, and the melee option was never anywhere close to the efficiency of root rotting. No other class gets the regen+canni combo that we do and our dots are decently mana effecient. We are at our best, when we are sitting on our butts, regenning mana/health, letting our dots kill the mob, and not spending mana on slows.

I melee'd mobs till lvl 45 then switched to jbb. It's pretty absurd how good slow it. Specially when your fungi'd with fungi staff.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by brecon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you roll Barbarian, then the Barbarian Spritist's Hammer does absolutely tear through mobs.

Not anymore [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] I have one myself and ever since they "fixed" the proc rates the hammer now procs once a fight, maybe twice if the fight's on the long side. That's still 1-2 free winter's roars per fight, but it doesn't "absolutely tear through mobs" the way it used to.

[brecon]

A Spiritish Ancille in MM has 1200hp. If you have max dex, the weapon has 2 procs per minute on average. That is ~520 DD, or a little under half its hp from procs alone, on a weapon with a pretty decent ratio to boot. Not to mention that the procs occur per minute, so if you canni or cast while in melee range, you don't lose that damage, while you do lose the damage from normal swings on the melee weapon.

You could run stats and see if that is better than a granite face grinder, depending upon how often you think you cast. But for someone on a thread called 'Battle Shaman,' it's a good suggestion for something to look for. Very few classes are able to solo MM CE at Being said, I wouldn't roll a barbarian just to use it, but it's a nice toy that will be useful for slow tanking if you invest in one.

[Tann]

a bit related, at what point do I start using Tagar's instead of Walking Sleep? Right away? or at Lv.29 is it around 30% of a slow already?

[loramin]

Originally Posted by brecon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A Spiritish Ancille in MM has 1200hp. If you have max dex, the weapon has 2 procs per minute on average.

Here's the thing:

• even a twinked shaman won't usually have much Dex gear, so most often you'll only see one proc per fight
  
• you're at the mercy of the RNG, so sometimes you won't even get one proc
  
• at the same time sometimes you'll get three procs, but because you can't control when that 2nd or 3rd proc happens, the mob will usually be close to dead anyway when it happens
  
• the more you level the more HP mobs get, and thus the BSH damage becomes less and less noticeable over time
  
• since you still have to do the rest of the damage with dots, and you still need to slow, the BSH doesn't wind up saving mana (just HP because the fight ends faster)

So, as someone who's owned a BSH for pretty much my entire P99 career, all I'm saying is anyone thinking about purchasing one should understand that "tears through mobs" is a bit misleading.

I do totally agree though that it is:

Originally Posted by brecon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

a nice toy that will be useful for slow tanking if you invest in one

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Tann [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

a bit related, at what point do I start using Tagar's instead of Walking Sleep? Right away? or at Lv.29 is it around 30% of a slow already?

It's a pretty safe bet that you always want to use the newest slow you can (or for that matter the newest spell of any line, with a few exceptions). If my math is correct, it works out like this:

Walking Sleep goes from 23% at 14 to 35% at 60, ie. it increases 0.26% per level. So, by level 29 it should be at almost 27%. Tagar's on the other hand starts (at level 29) at 34%, plus it lasts longer.

There is a 65 mana difference between the two, so if you're fighting a very weak-hitting mob and your tank is super-twinked out and has high AC then maybe it might be more efficient to use Walking Sleep ... but even then I kinda doubt it.