Boxing

[Tradesonred]

Originally Posted by FaithlessKR [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I boxed my entire EQ career and played socially nearly the entire time, and when pals quit...guess what I can still play because I'm not grounded by having one character in the world. When it all comes down to it, you can't 2 box trakanon, you can't 2 box venril sathir, you can't 2 box anything....so how is boxing ruining a social theme?

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[FaithlessKR]

Originally Posted by hivemind [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think the last apple product I owned (the only I can ever remember owning) was a first generation ipod. Thing was a gigantic sack of shit, and gave me all the impression I needed to never purchase another apple product again. I guess it's easier on the imagination to make assumptions like I'm poor and/or am running on a shitty computer, and use that as reason as to why I dislike boxing.

It's a good idea, but wrong. And while "multi-boxing" was never brought up, boxing one client is pretty comparable to boxing two clients, which is pretty comparable to boxing three clients, and so forth. It's been my experience that the vast majority cannot even control one player character very well, let alone more than one. I don't like playing with shitties which is part of the reason that I cannot stand playing EQ on non-PVP server, and is part of the reason I cannot stand playing with people who box.

Sorry you can't do shit on one account and feel the need to be able to box in order to enjoy this game. Must suck.

Has nothing to do with "sucking at the game", more along the lines of I don't have 6+ hours a day to neckbeard on this crappy server just to get something done.

This world is to big and there are not enough players, you play a geared melee at level 60 and tell me how much fun you're having without a porter, my guess will be zero unless you're a gigantic bluebie faggot who only logs on for respawn days in Nihilum.

[Salaryman]

I get mad when people park their 60 clerics in zone to res. I think they should limit it to one character per person. You guys cant handle leveling up with rustys, cant handle guk without parked cleric, cant handle EQ.
Classic EQ is a game where you need to contant other humans, and need to be logged in all the time to succeed, you guys dont want classic EQ.
QQ to get pvp xp death out,
QQ to make LNS rules
QQ so you can box
you suck

[SprinklesAK]

Originally Posted by FaithlessKR [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes because I want to be 100% reliant on having 15 porter friends who can port me any time i log on just to get somewhere??

I have about 6 and I can't remember the last time one of them was online and not too busy to come port my rogue around. Your arguments are invalid and absolutely ridiculous.

I boxed my entire EQ career and played socially nearly the entire time, and when pals quit...guess what I can still play because I'm not grounded by having one character in the world. When it all comes down to it, you can't 2 box trakanon, you can't 2 box venril sathir, you can't 2 box anything....so how is boxing ruining a social theme?

Perhaps a 2 box limit wouldn't be as bad, I assumed this was talking about unlimited boxing. However, I know nobody on this server and have got around just fine without ports or gate. Maybe get to know more people? Maybe pay one of the druids porting people? (they are mostly newer players that could use the help)

Boxing for most of your EQ career I'm betting was live where most people did not box. So of course it is easy to be social when you are the lone 2 boxer and everyone wants to be your buddy because you have two characters. When boxing becomes available to everyone, everyone boxes, which means every group becomes 3 players right there.

So it definitely does limit the social aspect. If two boxing actually attracted enough new people to offset the reduced grouping and social opportunities it might not be bad. But it really seems like the main reason people want to box is to make their lives more convenient and make themselves less reliant on others.

IMO the definition of EQ's design is reliance on others and having to make friends. Clearly most of this server despises that fact, yet still continues to play EQ.

You don't have to agree with me, and I understand that you don't want to have to rely on others, but I don't like allowing boxing. I like that I have to make friends and talk to people, and I have to think about whether I PK, help, or ignore someone because that choice will matter because I can't live without everyone else. Not that boxing would eliminate that, but it does reduce it and I see no need to reduce it.

[Tradesonred]

Originally Posted by Salaryman [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I get mad when people park their 60 clerics in zone to res. I think they should limit it to one character per person. You guys cant handle leveling up with rustys, cant handle guk without parked cleric, cant handle EQ.
Classic EQ is a game where you need to contant other humans, and need to be logged in all the time to succeed, you guys dont want classic EQ.
QQ to get pvp xp death out,
QQ to make LNS rules
QQ so you can box
you suck

xp loss on death was the worst of the bad decisions made by devs

If they had allowed it to carry on, even with PnP it would have destroyed the box

Nobody but a core of maybe 60 neckbeards can have fun when you need to grind on top of the grind

[hivemind]

Originally Posted by FaithlessKR [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Has nothing to do with "sucking at the game", more along the lines of I don't have 6+ hours a day to neckbeard on this crappy server just to get something done.

This world is to big and there are not enough players, you play a geared melee at level 60 and tell me how much fun you're having without a porter, my guess will be zero unless you're a gigantic bluebie faggot who only logs on for respawn days in Nihilum.

When you use quotations, consider actually quoting something I said as opposed to quoting some set of words that you imagined (or interpreted) me as saying. I said I don't like playing with shitties... and I said that most people cannot play one character let alone more than one... The implication here is that it is more difficult to play more characters... and most people can't play one. It really shouldn't require explicit explanation, but that's what happens when someone quotes something that isn't there and I am left to go back and explain what it was that I actually said.

As I said before:

Originally Posted by hivemind [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sorry you can't do shit on one account and feel the need to be able to box in order to enjoy this game. Must suck.

[FaithlessKR]

Originally Posted by Salaryman [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I get mad when people park their 60 clerics in zone to res. I think they should limit it to one character per person. You guys cant handle leveling up with rustys, cant handle guk without parked cleric, cant handle EQ.
Classic EQ is a game where you need to contant other humans, and need to be logged in all the time to succeed, you guys dont want classic EQ.
QQ to get pvp xp death out,
QQ to make LNS rules
QQ so you can box
you suck

Can't handle sentence structure, can't handle english.

Can't box?? Can't handle classic EQ

[hivemind]

Originally Posted by Tradesonred [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

xp loss on death was the worst of the bad decisions made by devs

Quoted for extreme carebearism. Bluest EQ PVP server I have ever played on, without contest. Part of this can be discerned immediately from the population that comprises the server, and the rest of this can be discerned from the hilarious set of rules on this server. I won't even get started on the staff policy of ban-first, ask-questions later. Carebear as fuck server [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

At least it's easier than blue in most ways imaginable. Otherwise the server would already be dead.

[FaithlessKR]

Originally Posted by SprinklesAK [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Perhaps a 2 box limit wouldn't be as bad, I assumed this was talking about unlimited boxing. However, I know nobody on this server and have got around just fine without ports or gate. Maybe get to know more people? Maybe pay one of the druids porting people? (they are mostly newer players that could use the help)

Boxing for most of your EQ career I'm betting was live where most people did not box. So of course it is easy to be social when you are the lone 2 boxer and everyone wants to be your buddy because you have two characters. When boxing becomes available to everyone, everyone boxes, which means every group becomes 3 players right there.

So it definitely does limit the social aspect. If two boxing actually attracted enough new people to offset the reduced grouping and social opportunities it might not be bad. But it really seems like the main reason people want to box is to make their lives more convenient and make themselves less reliant on others.

IMO the definition of EQ's design is reliance on others and having to make friends. Clearly most of this server despises that fact, yet still continues to play EQ.

You don't have to agree with me, and I understand that you don't want to have to rely on others, but I don't like allowing boxing. I like that I have to make friends and talk to people, and I have to think about whether I PK, help, or ignore someone because that choice will matter because I can't live without everyone else. Not that boxing would eliminate that, but it does reduce it and I see no need to reduce it.

I've been on this server since before the legendary items were removed. I've made many friends on this box, because I've been here for a very long time.

That being said, those of us who have been here that long don't want to have to log on a porter every 15 minutes to port every single melee around the world at max level because we're looking for pvp or something else to do.

The game grows completely fucking stale at max level when mass pvp or raiding isn't lined up, because you are 100% reliant on someone getting off their main character to be a port bitch. All you scrubs leveling up right now haven't been here, you haven't sat here at max level where there are no random ports available for over a year, so I really don't respect any of your opinions on the matter.

I don't play here anymore because of this, in fact the last week I did play I 2 boxed every single night just to get my rogue to wherever the action was, and even 2 boxed to rez myself after nearly letting my corpse rot out of frustration with how dumb this server is.

You can call this a QQ post and I honestly wouldn't care, it is a bit of tears because this game was fun on live all the way through velious and even a bit fun into PoP. I like playing melees, and have ever since the days when I first started, I don't feel like I should have to be chained down by the porter economy on the server just to be able to do anything.

[FaithlessKR]

Originally Posted by hivemind [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Quoted for extreme carebearism. Bluest EQ PVP server I have ever played on, without contest. Part of this can be discerned immediately from the population that comprises the server, and the rest of this can be discerned from the hilarious set of rules on this server. I won't even get started on the staff policy of ban-first, ask-questions later. Carebear as fuck server [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

At least it's easier than blue in most ways imaginable. Otherwise the server would already be dead.

Uhhh, unless sullon zek had xp loss on pvp death then this is the first server I've ever seen with that setting. It was a retarded rule, and only further deteriorated the chances of finding pvp on this server.

Nobody was willing to die, the xp loss from pvp was not rezzable, and unless your side had a numbers advantage...there was no way anyone stuck around for pvp. Nihilum included.

Who the fuck is this retard hivemind anyway?