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Old 03-29-2013, 07:33 AM
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So #3? That link doesn't clarify anything.
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If you go LD while having aggro and you are not DA, your character will stay in the game world for a while. This is classic. Don't utilize any method that could circumvent this classic mechanic.
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Old 03-29-2013, 08:06 AM
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Would love to hear your thoughts re: timers.

I play a FD class and have an exemption because my husband and I play together. With the FD changes I sometimes need to FD and then /q agro. How long do I need to stay out before choosing to load past server? 30 sec, like camping?
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Old 03-29-2013, 08:21 AM
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Would love to hear your thoughts re: timers.

I play a FD class and have an exemption because my husband and I play together. With the FD changes I sometimes need to FD and then /q agro. How long do I need to stay out before choosing to load past server? 30 sec, like camping?
that's not poofing...
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Old 03-29-2013, 08:29 AM
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that's not poofing...
It would be if I came back in immediately, I assume? FD -> /q -> re-enter

I'm asking how long we need to stay out, having /q'd.
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Old 03-29-2013, 08:33 AM
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It would be if I came back in immediately, I assume? FD -> /q -> re-enter

I'm asking how long we need to stay out, having /q'd.
if you immediately came back because you had a 2nd window open that would be abusing the exemption. Not sure if your question has been addressed, but if you are logging in faster than you would be able to w/o the exemption you would be in the wrong.
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Old 03-29-2013, 08:39 AM
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... if you are logging in faster than you would be able to w/o the exemption...
Right, of course I would be -- because I'm not held at server select while my char is in world. The difference between a 2nd window and the same window after /q is probably all of a couple of seconds. Thus the question of how long they'd want people to wait. I'll go with 30 seconds unless I hear otherwise. /shrug
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Old 03-29-2013, 08:58 AM
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I demonstrated/explained "insta-poofing" for nilbog and Sirken the other day.

Simply put it is using any method available (IP exemption, MQ insta camps, etc) in order to force your character immediately out of game and skipping the step of being LD or camping.

It's abuse is extremely common on both servers, and I am very glad there is something finally being done about it.
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Old 03-29-2013, 09:28 AM
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Right, of course I would be -- because I'm not held at server select while my char is in world. The difference between a 2nd window and the same window after /q is probably all of a couple of seconds. Thus the question of how long they'd want people to wait. I'll go with 30 seconds unless I hear otherwise. /shrug
If you play normally, you shouldn't ever ask yourself if what you're doing is legit or not.
People don't immediatly /q after they FD. If you know you don't have aggro after a FD (successful FD, all DD spells resisted etc.), then you can /q.

If you FD, instant /q and relog, that just means you know you're using this to drop aggro.
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Old 03-29-2013, 09:40 AM
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If you play normally, you shouldn't ever ask yourself if what you're doing is legit or not.
People don't immediatly /q after they FD. If you know you don't have aggro after a FD (successful FD, all DD spells resisted etc.), then you can /q.

If you FD, instant /q and relog, that just means you know you're using this to drop aggro.
Right, of course I'm talking about a successful FD, not about /q the second I hit the ground. I can normally hide and camp out agro and I prefer that. On the occasion that I have agro on a roamer that sees hide (not gonna reset and can't just camp), FD and /q it is. Just like monks do all the time.

I'm not really at risk while FD in the scenario I am describing. I am not talking about getting out of game while being cast upon or anything, have never used it like that. I'm not in an urgent rush to get back in game any more than someone without an exemption. The fact that I FD and then /q doesn't make it shady. FD players do it all the time -- I just want to be clear on how long those of us who have exemptions for other purposes need to wait before reentering like normal.

I'm not asking if what I'm doing is legit -- I'm not using it to escape a damn thing -- I'm asking how long I have to stay out for it to not be viewed as described above. I'd only be LD for a very short while if I didn't just wait at server select awhile, thus it would potentially be seen as a poof. I don't know.
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Old 03-29-2013, 09:54 AM
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I see a lot of confusion in this thread--and I assumed this was common knowledge--but "poofing" is actually the act of a lady demurely expelling intestinal gases from her butthole.
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