no global ooc in offpeak killed the game

[gedeost]

Originally Posted by eqdruid76 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm not being a dick. If these were rational, reasonable human beings with any sort of valid point or arguement, then yes, I'd be a dick. But these people are simply whining because they're not able to spam their ignorant, inane, juvenile bile at everyone that's trying to enjoy the game. They're making up scenarios and statistics that are simply lies. They're not even trying to find groups, they're saying that because they can't discuss politics and religion with players throughout the server, the game is too hard.

If I'm going to be labelled a dick for "saying out loud" what everyone else is thinking, then so be it. But that's not going to change the fact that serverwide chat is gone, and the only thing any of these trolls are going to get out of whining is me telling them to L2Play or go away.

You have no rational arguments.

You make up scenarios and statistics that are simply lies.

Only you is thinking it.

Btw I own you in Everquest.

[eqdruid76]

Originally Posted by gedeost [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You are a dick with no rational arguments.

You make up scenarios and statistics that are simply lies.

Only you and your mother is thinking it.

Btw i own you in Everquest.

l2play and resubscribe wow please.

Sorry, I've never played wow.

And you're getting desperate with your retorts. The only thing you own me in is acting like a spoiled little kid, which I'll concede you've got me beat there.

[eqdruid76]

Originally Posted by Taxi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Or just do something about EQ and gedeost, they are obvious trolls

Says the port bot that violated terms of service with his last post.

I was going to let it slide, but not now...

[gedeost]

Originally Posted by eqdruid76 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sorry, I've never played wow.

And you're getting desperate with your retorts. The only thing you own me in is acting like a spoiled little kid, which I'll concede you've got me beat there.

Yes, you played WoW.

And you're getting desperate with your retorts. The only thing you own me in is acting like a spoiled little kid, which I'll concede you've got me beat there.

[eqdruid76]

Originally Posted by gedeost [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes, you played wow stupid n00b.

And you're getting desperate with your retorts. The only thing you own me in is acting like a spoiled little kid, which I'll concede you've got me beat there.

Sigh.

You can change your screen name all you want, but I know exactly who you are. Your defense mechanism of being a whiney little copycat when you've been served betrays you.

Your insignificant gripe about a game mechanic that should never have been included on the server in the first place is finished. I'm tired of stooping to your level. You are not getting your way. And you can open new email accounts to register alt names and complain about it until you're blue in the face. You're still going to have to learn to get along with players ingame to enjoy Project1999. If you're unable to do so, then that's your problem.

But by all means, QQ more. Except next time, post it in Rants and Flames, where it belongs.

Have an exuberant day, Ebay. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[gedeost]

Originally Posted by eqdruid76 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sigh.

You can change your screen name all you want, but I know exactly who you are. Your defense mechanism of being a whiney little copycat when you've been served betrays you.

Your insignificant gripe about a game mechanic that should never have been included on the server in the first place is finished. I'm tired of stooping to your level. You are not getting your way. And you can open new email accounts to register alt names and complain about it until you're blue in the face. You're still going to have to learn to get along with players ingame to enjoy Project1999. If you're unable to do so, then that's your problem.

But by all means, QQ more. Except next time, post it in Rants and Flames, where it belongs.

Have an exuberant day, Ebay. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You can write all the bullshit you want, but I know exactly what you are. Your defense mechanism of being a pro everquest noob when you've been served betrays you.

Your insignificant gripe about a game mechanic that was required for the server to grow should never have been removed. I'm not tired of stooping to your stupid level. No one is listening to you. And you can post new posts and complain about it until you're blue in the face. You're still going to have to learn to get play the easiest and most boring game ever. If you're unable to do so, then that's your problem.

But by all means, QQ more. Except next time, post it in Rants and Flames, where it belongs.

Have an exuberant day, Ebay. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[gruumsh]

lol @ this debate, you'd think this was a discussion about healthcare reform [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Branaddar]

Originally Posted by Taxi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

making it a fucking headache for skimming for non-troll replies

Quoted for STFU (to the trolls, I mean.)

We're here to discuss the issue, not your issues with another player. Stay on topic, get the fuck over yourselves or take it to flames and rants. Nobody wants to hear your bullshit, and frankly it's fucking annoying.

Personally, I can see an advantage to global ooc. Yes, I haven't played here much because my PC is slowly dieing. (Power supply and/or video card are borked.) But I can commiserate with the off-peakers, because I remember playing in off-peak on EQLive back in Velious days. At the time, I was a wizard so soloing was an option.

But something people need to realize is that on these emu servers, SO many people choose to play a class they don't need to group with, and will often tell you to bugger off if you do invite them, because soloing is more profitable for them.

Regardless of how server population compares to anything, the times have changed, and a lot of people are more interested in soloing than grouping. Myself, I prefer grouping and meeting people, which is why I am playing a shaman and a paladin. I want to fill needed roles in a group, I want to help other people out and make new friends.

But I am far from the majority, unfortunately.

So quote "how it was in the old days" as much as you want, decry the offpeak hour players as lazy or whatever, but of those 200 people playing in offpeak, I'm betting you about half of them have never and will never group.

I was originally against the idea of global chat because, as has been said numerous times, the level of douchebaggery one has to endure to do anything relevant with the channel sucks.

Any workaround we can think of will involve either a minor bandaid (IRC, how many people would really join it?) or a full fix that introduces new or old headaches all over again.

It would be nice to say "hey, make an LFG channel" but that would be turned into the new global chat faster than you can say LFG.

One potential solution I can think of is to do something that breaks the "classic" in a minor way.

Bring in the EQLive LFG window, or make something similar. Allow people to be on their level 50s farming plat/gear while LFG with a comment of "26 PLD or 37 CLR LFG" Allow groups to LFP so people on those 50s can check for their alts.

Yes, it's not classic, and no it's not perfect, but I think it's a decent middle-ground to the frustrations a lot of people are dealing with.

[jilena]

Originally Posted by nicemace [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

there is no direct correlation between population growth and global ooc, to think that there is...well....

correct me if im wrong, but wasn't the population increasing before the global got taken off? so its pretty pointless to bring growth into the argument.

Someone had asked earlier in the thread if the population had stopped growing since the ooc change. I was stating that it had not and that it probably would not for a while as more new people means even more new people because of word of mouth.

My point was in fact that these numbers were completely useless for determining the effect the OOC change had on the server. You instead need to look certain groups and see what has happened with them due to the change. Just looking at total population is not really a great way to measure the health of the server. Retention imo is more important. If 50 new people start playing every single day... But only 2 of them play for more than a few weeks having 10000000 level 15s on the server doesn't really make for a great classic experience imo... *shrug*

[pickled_heretic]

Originally Posted by jilena [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Someone had asked earlier in the thread if the population had stopped growing since the ooc change. I was stating that it had not and that it probably would not for a while as more new people means even more new people because of word of mouth.

My point was in fact that these numbers were completely useless for determining the effect the OOC change had on the server. You instead need to look certain groups and see what has happened with them due to the change. Just looking at total population is not really a great way to measure the health of the server. Retention imo is more important. If 50 new people start playing every single day... But only 2 of them play for more than a few weeks having 10000000 level 15s on the server doesn't really make for a great classic experience imo... *shrug*

I was going to come eventually to making this point.