Russians Behind DNC attack!

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by big_ole_jpn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

kaczynski was woke doe

this ***** disrespect kaczynski

that ***** started that woke Shit back in the Reagan era way before Bush came.

[Daywolf]

Originally Posted by Jarnauga [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh and i'm not pro corporations, unless you mean something else by "corporations".

Pro-corporation is just free-market pro-capitalism, all shapes and sizes, generic.
Corporatism, it's monolithic corporations funding the political machine and being given special rules that drive out competition. i.e. anti-free-market etc. They basically own politicians.
"Not pro-corp" is nothing, again generic, just falls into anti-capitalist, can even be corporatism which is anti-capitalist by nature.

In wikipedia it's listed as Corporatocracy, though correct by general definition, it's better put and often is said Corporitism, as it's more connected to Technocracy, the Technocrats, and as a tool of the Technocrats. Liberals say Corporatocracy (a disconnect from technocracy), when they bother to talk about it anyway. Most of it is controlled by few people, as well as for big banks, not including all rich people, but often very wealthy families are likely, usually old money.

[Ahldagor]

Originally Posted by AzzarTheGod [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

this ***** disrespect kaczynski

that ***** started that woke Shit back in the Reagan era way before Bush came.

Ted had some severe autism. Guy was a genius, but had no social skills. No clue where violence falls on the spectrum. Sadly he was out done by Bin Laden on hide and seek skills.

[Daywolf]

Originally Posted by Ahldagor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Crack is whack. Just curious of how you developed your paranoia. Getting some Ted Kazinsky vibes.

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Paranoid people are usually afraid. Would you call police detectives paranoid people? I've never been a "cop" but I enjoy puzzles. Do I seem to be as someone afraid? irl I do get into people faces with blatant honesty, and have learned better tact over the years and from the early fist fights I've pondered [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
A translation easily lost in cold hard text, especially capsulated so, compared to visual conversation and all it's nuances.
Paranoia though, seems to come more from self-interest. And to think someone paranoid, could just be a reflex action of denial on the accusers part.

It's just like cults, some people have a problem coming out of them due to the sudden realization and literal system shock of the truth. Then that also resulting in ostracization from once revered peers, even from family. So if they choose to retract back into it, they either live a lie or they develop a mental block which only grows further calloused over time. It can quite literally develop into a mental disorder. Such as the cult of the left hehe

[Jarnauga]

Originally Posted by Xaanka [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you're being outright dismissive of ideas which differ from your personally held beliefs on topics you have little more than a sophomoric understanding of. you literally posted two graphs in the same post that conflicted each other to "support" your argument. it's pretty clear you both simultaneously have little grasp of understanding of what you're talking about, nor have you given alternative theories ample consideration.

thing is, your points don't mean much if they can't stand up to scrutiny. but rather than question the strength of your own ideals, you demonize anything differing from your views as "religious" and this unscientific. it's ignorant and anti-intelligent.

care to explain the rapid climate shifts observed post-ice age? how does that evidence fit into your view of environmental gradualism, the theory in which the models you are posting are based on?

Neither you or i or anyone here have the authority or the knowledge to demonstrate anything

like i already said earlier in this thread, the difference between me and someone like daywolf is i believe the 97% of climate scientists all over the world have the authority to answer the matter. The only thing he provided to counter that is "no you're wrong" and a link to a libertarian think tank (which is not a scientific institution) article that has ties to oil companies and has already said that "tobacco is not dangerous for your health"

Science is not about beliefs or ideas. it's about facts. And again, having a PhD in history doesn't make you an authority on climate change. It just makes you an authority in history.

And yes, again, the tactics used by climate change denialist are the same used by people promoting "teach the controversy", or the flat earthers, or the people thinking that usa never went to the moon, or that jet fuels don't melt steel beams..

Another level of batshit-insane is saying that it's a hoax from china to weaken the usa.. china is probably the 2nd biggest polluter in the world (might be 1st now), they would suffer greatly from any kind of regulation like the kyoto protocol. But who cares about facts and logic.

[Jarnauga]

Originally Posted by Daywolf [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Pro-corporation is just free-market pro-capitalism, all shapes and sizes, generic.
Corporatism, it's monolithic corporations funding the political machine and being given special rules that drive out competition. i.e. anti-free-market etc. They basically own politicians.
"Not pro-corp" is nothing, again generic, just falls into anti-capitalist, can even be corporatism which is anti-capitalist by nature.

In wikipedia it's listed as Corporatocracy, though correct by general definition, it's better put and often is said Corporitism, as it's more connected to Technocracy, the Technocrats, and as a tool of the Technocrats. Liberals say Corporatocracy (a disconnect from technocracy), when they bother to talk about it anyway. Most of it is controlled by few people, as well as for big banks, not including all rich people, but often very wealthy families are likely, usually old money.

well yeah, i'm against it. i think me saying:

I don't care about corporations as long as they're not lobbying to change laws against the common good just to get more dollars

..means exactly that. It's a major issue in pretty much any western democracy. I think we can both agree that any elected representation should be "by the people, for the people", and the "for the people" fall short when you're being given money by any profit-based-entity. I don't even think it's a right/left issue, it's more systemic. Lawrence Lessig did write a bunch of stuff about that if i remember well.

I'm pretty sure you think that Trump is independant because he self funded his campaign, but until he releases his tax returns, i'm gonna hold him on that [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Daywolf]

Lets get the un-dissected quote back up here..

Originally Posted by Jarnauga [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't care about corporations as long as they're not lobbying to change laws against the common good just to get more dollars, ie tobbaco with "hey tobbacco is good for your health", coal "coal is clean !", energy lobbies "climate change doesn't exist". It's not even limited to corporations, it's the exact-same-modus-operandi for christian groups and denying evolution.

Nope, wasn't mistaken, that sound is the sound of shiny jackboots slapping the ground in parade march mode. You just have a different definition of "free" from there in Africa, uh-huh. So if they have "consensus" on global warming, then it's ok, right? You named everything you are against, what happened to the rest?

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Lobbyists paying off politicians should be driven out all together, not just the ones you disagree with. Maybe you could put more effort into figuring out how to fix Africa's problems? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] ...Africa has a looooot of problems [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

edit: btw the pic is only the short list :/

[Trollhide]

Originally Posted by Jarnauga [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm pretty sure you think that Trump is independant because he self Russia funded his campaign, but until he releases his tax returns, i'm gonna hold him on that [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Daywolf]

Originally Posted by Trollhide [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Russia funded his campaign

Well if Russia actually did pull off the hack (I don't think they did, but...), I say good for them! But it really isn't any contribution to Trump, directly, just a slap against the Democrats that have been openly calling him Hitler. I mean wtf?!? Like little spoiled brat kids in our government now. They have set back US-Russian relations decades! This is all they do, scream Hitler at everyone. They have lost their minds.

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[Trollhide]

Originally Posted by Daywolf [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well if Russia actually did pull off the hack (I don't think they did, but...), I say good for them! But it really isn't any contribution to Trump, directly, just a slap against the Democrats that have been openly calling him Hitler. I mean wtf?!? Like little spoiled brat kids in our government now. They have set back US-Russian relations decades! This is all they do, scream Hitler at everyone. They have lost their minds.

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Godwin'ing him may be a step too far as he hasn't had the opportunity for a genocide yet, but he definitely has a fascist bent