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Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

All in one picture for you guys.

Pink line is zone in kite.
Blue and Gold lines are CT kites.

Yellow circle filled with black is NW camp spot (where a guild runs to after zone in kite)

Pussy Purple Splotch is the area in question ( the horribly wrong spot to be when CT is spawned )

The red shit is shit that causes DTs.

If I had the time, skills, and patience I would have made this an educational animated film.

Kites? You have more than 1 person with a kite?

[Rhambuk]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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needs more colors and squiggly lines so i can see it better

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Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

When CT kites are ran yeah. It can actually be done by one person, but it takes longer and you run a greater risk of starting a DT cycle.

Yea. All I'm saying is there's different ways to do it. A-Team is basically locked into WW camp once CT spawns unless their bard starts a kite to clear to NW. Maybe that's what some seasoned vets would have done when fear repopped on them, but coming in here to dunk all over them when the other party has a responsibility not to train them isn't the best approach. I don't presume to know AT's experience with the typical funfest that is CT when multiple guilds are in the zone but from what I understand they are exeptional players.

TMO has much more experience on how to handle that zone than anyone else and if I'm coming here to say you can do it without west wall camp getting aggro on your kite, you know they know how to do it. Can't follow the exact routine when there's an obstacle in the way.

Fear is a rough place to be when 4 guilds are in the zone and CT's up.

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Originally Posted by Troubled [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

exeptional

+c

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Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Depends on what A-teams goal was after the repop. They claim to have just been there for a planar clear and then (iirc) was going to try for draco on the repop.

If they just wanted to do a planar clear, they should have camped their raid force and then told the other guilds their goal with a few representatives in the zone to reduce the chance their raid is DT'd/trained/etc.

If they wanted to down Draco before CT was killed, they should have started running kites and got their guild ready to take him down (moving raid, clearing camp, etc).

Like I said previously, you aren't going to do a WW fear clear style raid and hope to get CT or even Draco on a FFA CT spawn.

I dunno. I think you could get draco from there.

[quido]

The next time I get social aggro from someone at KC entrance, I'm out for blood.

[Thana8088]

Originally Posted by Pan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Damn, I want those several deaths back I've eaten on the way in to KC b/c I didn't want to train idiot AFK-ers on the right side (going in) (add a couple at Chardok, too).

If you AFK at KC right side zone in, you deserve to be trained. It's the fuckers who train left that really piss me off!

[chief]

this moran is arguing and doesn't even know what hes talking about. go take 30+ on practice on gorg for ct prep next ct window brah. Even the gm called you a moran

[Cochonou]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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All in one picture for you guys.

Pink line is zone in kite.
Blue and Gold lines are CT kites.

Yellow circle filled with black is NW camp spot (where a guild runs to after zone in kite)

Pussy Purple Splotch is the area in question ( the horribly wrong spot to be when CT is spawned )

The red shit is shit that causes DTs.

If I had the time, skills, and patience I would have made this an educational animated film.

You missed the line cutting through the firewall to reach north camp for BDA training themselves

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

thats a protip period. if youre on the west wall youre probably doing it wrong. because again, theres at least 4 mobs that path over the west wall by port in, and the zone gets kited in the SW corner to engage CT. if this server was a ghost town, or if this was instanced crapbutt, then you could go to fear and do whatever you want for as long as you want. if you decide you only want to play on the west wall, and then CT spawns, you can either move out of the way, or, you can stay there and get yourself trained.

Sirks

This is retarded.

This quote to me means that a big raid guild gets precedence over a small raid guild doing a plane clear. If I'm at west wall with my noob guild of 2 groups clearing trash for armor drops, and CT spawns. What gives the uber guild that comes in to kill him the right to kite on top of our camp. We were there first, they can fuck off and modify their strategy to not interrupt our armor farming. That's PNP 101. We had a camp we were working the camp, they can come back after we leave or figure out how to do the content they want to do without interrupting us.

Suggesting that kiting allows people to train a guild farming armor at west wall is dumb. Very dumb. Fucking kill the trash or kite somewhere that doesn't affect a guild farming armor at west wall.

Doing it wrong, hardly. Shit can see invis in the path to the north safe point and invis can drop leading to a clusterfuck train. Suggesting that north is the only way to go is wrong. Is it the fastest to get the golems and CT and Draco. Yes. For armor farming is the the "safest" no. There is much more that can go wrong running there when you aren't all grouping together. When running your forces are stretched and more easily picked off if invis drops or an SI scarling surprise buttfucks you.