Camping Raid Mobs... gone on long enough ?!

[guineapig]

Originally Posted by SchadenFreude [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A guild with tanks in full planes armor will fare much better against content in Kunark than a guild without any tanks in planar armor. The AC upgrade alone is a huge advantage.

Getting drops from the planes that will later be used to complete epics, before Kunark opens, is a huge advantage.

High end raiding guilds should be farming the planes as much as possible, right now, to minimize the delays in getting people fully geared when additional content opens. If the prerequisites are available today then why would anyone wait to begin those pre-reqs until November?

Like I said before, people are already getting full planar armor. The planes get cleared on a regular basis by multiple guilds. There are people with a full set of backup raid gear in the bank because they didn't want to see the items rot.

At least read my previous posts before replying.

[Branaddar]

I'm pretty sure nobody's saying classic loot > Kunark loot.

What they are saying is a classic-geared guild will have an easier time on encounters than an xp-group-geared one.

Disregarding this fact by saying kunark loot > classic loot does not negate the fact.

[guineapig]

Originally Posted by Branaddar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm pretty sure nobody's saying classic loot > Kunark loot.

What they are saying is a classic-geared guild will have an easier time on encounters than an xp-group-geared one.

Disregarding this fact by saying kunark loot > classic loot does not negate the fact.

I thought we were specifically referring to getting classic boss drops versus not getting classic boss drops. That is what this is about right? Camping raid bosses so that one guild can have an "advantage" over another guild?

When did this become about planar loot in general? Last time I checked, anyone can farm the planes any time they want. Even while another guild is in the zone!!! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Landis]

Originally Posted by Branaddar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm pretty sure nobody's saying classic loot > Kunark loot.

What they are saying is a classic-geared guild will have an easier time on encounters than an xp-group-geared one.

Disregarding this fact by saying kunark loot > classic loot does not negate the fact.

it'll be a lot easier to level to 60 if you're raid geared, as well

[Taxi]

To me, for the third time, its not about what the loot is, its about how fail are rules that let guilds perma-lock mobs if they got the numbers to do it? Very fail.

This can be solved by ditching those rules and letting people FFA it. Along the way, people would get a reputation for being courteous or asses, or something in the middle. Reputation, remember that?

But since this is probably never going to happen, the next best thing is: No guild can kill an end-game (20+?) named boss more than once if theres someone in-line to kill it. Its lame but you wont think its lame when you see IB and DA merge, or some similar event.

[guineapig]

Originally Posted by Landis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

it'll be a lot easier to level to 60 if you're raid geared, as well

OMG, all raid guilds are raid geared already!

[Landis]

Originally Posted by guineapig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

OMG, all raid guilds are raid geared already!

i'm not taking any sides here, i'm simply stating a fact that hadn't been mentioned yet.

[Reiker]

I don't think Chicanery realizes to obtain that superior Kunark loot you actually have to kill Kunark mobs. Unless he has the inside track on an auto kunark loot distribution NPC that we can hail for phatz.

[guineapig]

Originally Posted by Landis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i'm not taking any sides here, i'm simply stating a fact that hadn't been mentioned yet.

I apologize Landis, and I agree with you.

To any up and coming guilds who have not entered the planes yet:

Don't let threads like these dishearten you. As long as you can figure out the best way for you to break into the zone and have good communication there is no reason why you can't gear out your members in planar armor. Don't take the boss drops to be the be all end all because they aren't.

Just because a guild is camping CT or Inny for 2 days straight does not mean you can't go into the zone and start farming gear. So you end up with a dagger that has 2 more delay... So what?

I don't think Chicanery realizes to obtain that superior Kunark loot you actually have to kill Kunark mobs. Unless he has the inside track on an auto kunark loot distribution NPC that we can hail for phatz.

All I have to say to you is this:

http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...ht=kunark+loot

This "uber Kunark loot" will be dropping all over the place for every experience group.

I'm simply trying to let those that have not been to the planes yet know, that it's not too late for them get properly geared for all the content that lies ahead. Raid bosses or not.

[Yoite]

dont forget the planes will still be there when kunark comes out. you dont *have* to be in #1 guild to raid, there is nothing wrong imo with tiered guilds. on TZ Pandemonium would keep newest content on lock down, be it through pvp or just training. Disco and Indig tried to complete with them and they had some good competition going on but pretty much Pande got the newest stuff, and everyone else was an expansion behind, or even 2+ expansions behind.

for a long time i was in a guild that was raiding about 2 expansions behind Pande, and it was the best guild i have ever been in, in any game/server. raiding is still raiding, doesnt really matter what the content is.