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View Poll Results: Would you donate for a new "rotation" blue server?
Yes, I would absolutely donate money for this 256 62.75%
No, I'm quite happy with the way things are 87 21.32%
Don't care one way or another 65 15.93%
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Old 11-12-2014, 06:16 PM
Daldaen Daldaen is offline
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Getting a fixed rotation and no training Juggs, or planar trash to leapfrog another guild would help the culture a lot.

Forcing people to share, and interact with the understanding that not playing nice (IE trying to disrupt the rotation) would be harshly penalized by the GMs... Would also be a decent change a pace.

There's still the matter of people being greedy douches though... But let's take one step at a time.
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Old 11-12-2014, 06:32 PM
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Eh. This game really shows you how adults will act in private when self interest is concerned.

Kind of sad to see it is the same on both servers...but not surprising in the least.

At least I can slay those people on red otherwise I don't think I'd be here still.
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Old 11-12-2014, 06:37 PM
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I would donate and move or start over on a new raid rotation based server. To be honest though, I'd rather not have to. Id rather see the staff revisit the current C/R/FFA (VP to C Only) rotation, including variance, and their philosophy/vision behind it. I'd rather see the P99 blue community stay intact, but there is something fundamentally wrong when the vast majority of the server is constricted to such a small portion of the raid scene just because they don't want to conform to an extreme play style. It's been almost a year now in the current raid structure, and none of the guilds in the class R rotation are using it as the intended means of breaking into class C, and that speaks for itself.

I can't speak for others, but my personal reasons for not moving to class C are simple. I want to play, and be in a guild with, the friends and people that have helped me along the way here on P99. It's not that I don't want competition, or want my loot handed to me out of a vending machine. I just don't want to participate in the poopsocking and shenanigans that ensue as players find new ways to violate the spirit of the raid rules put in place in order to gain an unfair advantage over other guilds. I don't consider that to be competition.
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Old 11-12-2014, 06:44 PM
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I voted No, but I'm not happy with how things are. The solution isn't to split up the raid scene, it's to get rid of the ridiculous amount of arbitrary rules that make things so overcomplicated it's impossible for GMs to make spot rulings without contradicting one another.
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Old 11-12-2014, 07:07 PM
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Old 11-12-2014, 07:44 PM
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'No, I'm quite happy with the way things are'

is a loaded response btw. Some people might care, not be happy, and not like the proposed solution.
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Old 11-12-2014, 09:02 PM
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I'm just the new guy around here, but all I hearing is a couple things:

1.) I don't like the rules so I'll throw money at it and make it go away. (consensus of myself and some others)
2.) I don't want to lose the current time and effort I have already invested into the game and my character. (consensus of myself and some others)

To me as a newbie to the p99 community, I ask why not join red? (if there was a character move would that motivate you?)

Is it just because you don't like the people who play PvP or that aspect of the game? Well, judging by the votes on this poll it says you can create an entire faction on the Red and make it the ideal game for you and your comrades, and you would have a sizable force to enforce your ideology with all your like minds. Not saying that PvP solves everything but there is an option for that.

Instead of paying lots of money for a NEW server (lots of costs go into that, plus maintenance and upkeep). Why not have a paid system for a character move from Blue to Red or maybe a more expensive option for a Cloned character move? This would generate more revenue for the project while maybe not increasing the already mountain of work I'm sure they are doing already.

Maybe I'm talking out my ass but the whole idea of trying to garner support to change how the current server mechanics are because your unhappy at them (throw money at it) is the same kind of tactics used by most MMO community's. Most companies cater to the complainers and dissatisfied customers, (WoW is a good example) I would hate to see that kind of thing happen here when there is a perfectly decent option of Red....

My few cents.

Sidenote: I kinda see the Red server like how EvE-Online's 0.0 space works. Pal with friends who share your ideology, control a region. Don't want to follow anyone elses rules, kill them, do what you wanted anyways. But of course this works both ways.


TL;DR
Why pay extra money for services already rendered (support them anyways), join red, do what you want with your friends/community. EvE is a neato game. Eat cake.

Always room for cake,
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Old 11-12-2014, 09:51 PM
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It's not about the pixels. It's about people wanting to be rid of playing amongst the caustic players. Most of us are well into our adult lives at this point. We deal with toxicity on a daily basis in our professional lives and we play this 15yr old game to not only relive old memories, but to escape the toxicity of the human rat race known as adulthood.

The problem is a new blue server would not achieve the desired result of excluding players with no integrity or moral characteristics of any kind. Hell if I thought for one moment that it could I'd pay for the latest and greatest server hardware money can buy completely out of my own pocket. The problem we have here is a cultural one and no amount of money or new servers will ever solve it.
Personally I just want a server with a fresh start, if I have to play on a rotation server for that I would be fine with it. EQ is so fun before the server stagnates and gets top heavy. I don't have any illusions that this server would be full of angels.
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Old 11-12-2014, 10:46 PM
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To me as a newbie to the p99 community, I ask why not join red?
This is an excellent question, and I've yet to see a really convincing answer as to why you wouldn't give it a try <3

I know someone who ragequit his monk (SenoraRaton aka Charlatan) because he died in pvp, but a couple of days later he rolled a SK and has since leveled to 50+ and continues to play.

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Old 11-12-2014, 11:03 PM
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How much do I have to pay for Chest to be permanently moved to the EZ server? Serious question.
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