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Old 09-08-2010, 03:14 AM
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Old 09-08-2010, 03:56 AM
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Basically on my screen you got to avoid the trains and rule trucks, and hop across those slow turtles and onto the logs so that you're registered in my system that you were the first to get the hi-score
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Old 09-08-2010, 04:46 AM
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Page 13 and no one has even thought of mentioning this yet?

Theres a block of text missing from Rogean's shout. I can't remember if it came before or after the block shown at the beginning of this thread, I wish I had SS'd it. Why did Rogean fall back on the FTE rules? Neither guild could provide evidence that they had 15 Characters on the spawn point prior to Innorruuk spawning as the current raid rules state. People may not like the decision, but when the judging party shows up, and party A is claiming one thing, and party B is claiming another, but neither have proof, what is he supposed to do? I think defaulting to an extremely technical FTE ruling was probably the fairest way to rule in this situation.
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Old 09-08-2010, 05:12 AM
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Screenshots were provided to Rogean per his request. Ours showed when Trans entered the zone with a force large enough to take the boss, where we were camping and timestamped. There is no block of text missing from that screenshot posted in this thread, that's all that Rogean said.
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Old 09-08-2010, 07:18 AM
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Both guilds claimed they were on spawn point first. Thats what happens when confusion sets in when another guild starts leapfrogging, both guilds start running for the spawn point to get there first. I bet in reality they were both at the spawn point within seconds of eachother. Who was first? We don't know. The fact is Transcendence was also there much longer actually waiting for the spawn around the corner.
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Old 09-08-2010, 08:58 AM
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the simple fact that neither guild was in hate for more than a few hours (trans actively clearing mobs and DA zoning in and waiting 30minutes) kinda cancels out the whole "poopsock" thing....maybe DA had intention on doing it, i dont know... but trans doesnt really stick around for hours hoping for a raid boss.


but keep it up, eventually i think everyone is going to totally agree
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Old 09-08-2010, 10:05 AM
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the simple fact that neither guild was in hate for more than a few hours (trans actively clearing mobs and DA zoning in and waiting 30minutes) kinda cancels out the whole "poopsock" thing....maybe DA had intention on doing it, i dont know... but trans doesnt really stick around for hours hoping for a raid boss.


but keep it up, eventually i think everyone is going to totally agree
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He was due and there was nothing better to do than wait. If he would have spawned 5 hours later i promise we would have not been there (least i would not have been there).
Not sure if 5 hours is considered poopsocking but he appears to be saying Trans was planning to sit around for a good while. The early spawn was just dumb luck. Is it a distinction with out a difference?

If the door has now been reopened to camping outside aggro range, then yes, poopsocking now appears to be part of the picture again. Rogean denounced DA for leapfrogging but did not berate Trans for camping outside aggro which seems to go counter to the FTE we thought they were trying to promote with the new rules change. Utlimately Rogean did go to the logs for aggro chain which was probably the best way to deal with it.

I think it's safe to say camping the spawn without a zerg force is suicide and any guild forced to do it by a competing raid will end up loosing as they wipe. Trans did the only thing they could to have a serious chance at the kill. Problem is the rules dictating being at the spawn in aggro range favor numbers. Possibly an unexpected consequence of the rules revision.
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Old 09-08-2010, 02:24 PM
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the simple fact that neither guild was in hate for more than a few hours (trans actively clearing mobs and DA zoning in and was also actively clearing) kinda cancels out the whole "poopsock" thing....maybe DA had intention on doing it, i dont know... but trans doesnt really stick around for hours hoping for a raid boss.


but keep it up, eventually i think everyone is going to totally agree
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Old 09-08-2010, 02:59 PM
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Old 09-08-2010, 03:00 PM
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