Chauvin - Guilty or no?

[Horza]

There sure are a lot of Republican bootlickers crying in this thread.

[Snortles Chortles]

ah, the good ol “it wuz his fault we killed em!!” defense l!!
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[Trexller]

Originally Posted by Snortles Chortles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

ah, the good ol “it wuz his fault we killed em!!” defense l!!
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sometimes, it is their fault

[Snortles Chortles]

you’re welcome middle America

[Bardp1999]

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[Jibartik]

Video of cop executing man for jaywalking and holding a knife just hit the web.

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[DMN]

Originally Posted by Jibartik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Video of cop executing man for jaywalking and holding a knife just hit the web.

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He was brandishing a knife while threatening the officer, not just holding one And he wasn't just jaywalking he had been throwing rocks at cars.

He also requested the cop to kill him. Sounds like classic suicide by cop.

[Kaveh]

Originally Posted by Jibartik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Video of cop executing man for jaywalking and holding a knife just hit the web.

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Please tell me the cop and victim are the same race

I can’t take another racial whining by minorities, Iran has been under sanction since 1979 and you don’t see me asking for reparations from yalls cracker asses

[DMN]

Originally Posted by Vivitron [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm getting it from the Chauvin jury instructions. Go to page 5. For definition of 2nd degree murder see the section "Definition". For the relevance of felony assault see section "Elements", subsection "Third Element".

https://www.scribd.com/document/5036...-Chauvin-trial

Those are the agreed upon instructions for the jury, however i wasn't asking about Chauvin. The chauvin prosecution simply selected the easiest underlying potential felony to prove in their case, to essentially Trojan Horse in a murder conviction. I asked you about Noor and Potter, though, and why they weren't similarly charged.

The second degree murder statute says that if any felony is committed and the victim dies, it immediately qualifies as murder two. There are no other qualifiers for this, other than some incredibly bizarre exceptions for sexual assault and drive-by-shootings.

"(1) causes the death of a human being, without intent to effect the death of any person, while committing or attempting to commit a felony offense other than criminal sexual conduct in the first or second degree with force or violence or a drive-by shooting"

It wouldn't surprise me if this statue gets eviscerated in appeals court either, but it's really beside the point regarding Noor and Potter.

[Vivitron]

Originally Posted by DMN [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Those are the agreed upon instructions for the jury, however i wasn't asking about Chauvin. The chauvin prosecution simply selected the easiest underlying potential felony to prove in their case, to essentially Trojan Horse in a murder conviction. I asked you about Noor and Potter, though, and why they weren't similarly charged.

The second degree murder statute says that if any felony is committed and the victim dies, it immediately qualifies as murder two. There are no other qualifiers for this, other than some incredibly bizarre exceptions for sexual assault and drive-by-shootings.

"(1) causes the death of a human being, without intent to effect the death of any person, while committing or attempting to commit a felony offense other than criminal sexual conduct in the first or second degree with force or violence or a drive-by shooting"

It wouldn't surprise me if this statue gets eviscerated in appeals court either, but it's really beside the point regarding Noor and Potter.

I gave my answer -- Potter doesn't appear to be guilty of the felony (assault) that predicated Chauvin's felony murder charge, and I'm not commenting on Noor because I don't remember the case.

As far as I can tell using second degree manslaughter as the predicate felony for felony murder is not done, despite the lack of mention in the statute. If you manage to find an example of it being used that way or something prohibiting that use let me know. Now I'm curious.